[Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian Tenney)
Ron Mitchell
ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
Thu Feb 9 14:40:22 GMT 2012
That's already been described by Alex each time the LO is published/saved a
single backslash is removed until none are left.
So although it works as a temporary solution because latex requires the
backslash to work it only works once. And re-adding double backslashes each
time isn't realistic.
So does the same thing currently happen on all servers where magic quotes is
off? e.g. is the only difference on the sandpit the magic quotes setting or
has there been a code change over time to fix this when magic quotes are
off?
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 09 February 2012 14:19
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian
Tenney)
some on the sandbox add \\t to a text field.
See what gets saved.
Behold the answer!
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> But stripslashes() is independent of that?
>
> ________________________________
> From: ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:46:15 +0000
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
> (Julian
> Tenney)
>
> magic quotes are off on the sandpit.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave
> Burnett
> Sent: 09 February 2012 13:04
> To: Xerte list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
> (Julian
> Tenney)
>
>
>
>
>
> removing backslashes - stripslashes()
>
>
>
> Before you use PHP's backslash removal function stripslashes it's
> smart to add some magic quote checking like our "Are They Enabled?"
section above.
>
> This way you won't accidentally be removing slashes that are
> legitimate in the future if your PHP's magic quotes setting changes in the
future.
>
>
>
> magic quotes turned on?
>
>
>
>
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>
>> From: aott at glam.ac.uk
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 12:21:49 +0000
>> Subject: [Xerte] 1. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Julian
>> Tenney)
>>
>> It might be a server issue. I am using the sandpit area, which is
>> hosted with you?
>>
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>> From: Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
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>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
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>> I'm not able to replicate this. If I put in \ or \\ or \f or \\t they
>> all come back intact.
>>
>> Is this a server thing?
>>
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>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>> Sent: 08 February 2012 10:58
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>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>> The following happens: The LO is in the sandpit. I add the \\ into
>> the formulae and Publish, which is fine and the equation renders
>> fine; I also seem to be able to export it and import it into
>> Blackboard as long as I do not close the LO in the sandpit. If I
>> close the LO, and subsequently select it again and open it via Edit, each
time it removes a \ until none is left.
>> The same happens when I log in and out of the sandpit and re-open the LO.
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:48:06 +0000
>> From: Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
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>> Ahh, maybe it is getting escaped on the way out, but not one way in.
>>
>> So you start off with \\t
>>
>> Save the file, close the editor
>>
>> Open it
>>
>> And see \t
>>
>> ?
>>
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>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>> Sent: 07 February 2012 18:57
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>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Just to add another observation: While it worked fine with the \\
>> initially, I logged out and into the sandpit area and this removes
>> one of the dashes from the LaTex in the LO, leaving only one \ and
>> the formulae do not render anymore. If you do find a way that stops
>> the removal of the dashes, I would be grateful if you could please
>> let me know because it was a useful way of displaying formulae.
>>
>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>
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>> From: "Ott A (AT)" <aott at glam.ac.uk>
>> To: "xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
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>> Hi
>>
>> Many thanks again; to a few equations I added \\ where there should
>> have been a \, which must have been removed somewhere in the process,
>> and the formulae rendered fine in the sandpit and when I exported and
>> imported the LO into Blackboard. For this particular LO, I used LaTex
>> last year, but it is the only time I have used it: It worked fine
>> last year and a few weeks ago when I added the new swf file. I can
>> only vaguely remember how I put this together according to some
>> guidance on the web http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~dwilkins/LaTeXPrimer/ So
>> I did not notice that there where dashes missing from my formulae.
>> For now I will add \\ to the formulae; will this cause a problem at some
other stage?
>>
>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>
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>> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 10:04:26 -0000
>> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
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>> I've tested on two other XOT installs and single backslash within
>> latex on those works fine. But on the sandpit it removes the single
>> slash but works with \\ by leaving a single. Not been able to
>> identify exactly which file or files are different or required for
>> single \ to work. :-(
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>> Tenney
>> Sent: 07 February 2012 09:41
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
>>
>> Not sure. They will be strings in Flash, so I'd expect it to strip a
>> single \, and would normally escape them myself like \\t, but I
>> haven't used the latex stuff much.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Mitchell
>> Sent: 06 February 2012 22:11
>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
>>
>> Hi
>> I had a quick look at your LO and presumably you're adding the
>> backslash in front of times and frac etc e.g.
>> <tex src="=\frac{40\times24\times7}{1000} = 6.72"></tex> ?
>>
>> For some reason the sandpit seems to be stripping these out which is
>> why the latex is only partially working.
>>
>> I'm hoping Pat, Julian or someone else might be able to suggest what
>> file(s)
>> might be stripping the escape characters out so that I can replace
>> them on the server?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ott A (AT)
>> Sent: 06 February 2012 19:57
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron
>> Mitchell)
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Recently I had problems with latex rendering in a Xerte LO in the
>> sandpit and when imported to Blackboard. Julian and co kindly
>> directed me to a new file to use instead of the old one, this was the
>> XMLEngine.swf. Once I had replaced the file this worked fine in
Blackboard.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I had to amend the calculations in the LO. So I
>> imported the old LO into the sandpit area and amended the code. The
>> formulae are only partially rendering in the sandpit, e.g. 'times'
>> instead of 'x'. The formulae are also not working when I import the
>> new LO with the previously used XMLEngine.swf in Blackboard.
>>
>> Is there a way to work around this?
>>
>> Many thanks, Alex.
>>
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>> 1. Re: scorm or not? (Pat Lockley)
>> 2. Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide? (Ron Mitchell)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:06:37 +0000
>> From: Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>
>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: scorm or not?
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAO2PinPe+bYUsQ5E-=4P7a1SSmTUhdduQMokEw4J97dLe4AfPQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> The default SCORM export has no extra metadata in the fields.
>>
>> As XOT has support for dc:title and dc:description (see the open
>> content
>> tab) - you can opt to create a scorm package with this data in too,
>> if you prefer. Some people may not want to, hence both options.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Julian Tenney
>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> > Leaving the content in toolkits and linking to it is better in some
>> > ways because you can easily update it. If you export it, and import
>> > it elsewhere as scorm you can?t.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Blackboard will track your users if you provide a link to the URL
>> > of the piece in toolkits. No need to export it.
>> >
>> > You could then use a native blackboard quiz to validate the
>> > learning, in a ?view this piece then take this quiz? approach.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you do export it as a scorm package, you can import that into
>> > Blackboard, the only real reason to do that, is as you say, to get
>> > a quiz
>> score.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>> > Haslam
>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 14:32
>> > To: Xerte discussion list
>> > Subject: [Xerte] scorm or not?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks very much Dave, Pat and Julian for your replies. I?m still
>> > not totally clear about the use of scorm with XOT, however. (NB I?m
>> > not using the sandpit anymore so anything to do with the sandpit is
>> > no longer relevant to my question.)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I want to track students? usage of the LOs in Blackboard AND the
>> > results of quizzes in Blackboard. So is it right that I need to
>> > export the LOs as ?Scorm Export? and then upload them into
>> > Blackboard to achieve
>> this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, what is meant by the ?richer SCORM metadata? that comes with
>> > the ?SCORM + metadata export?? What effect would/could that have
>> > within Blackboard?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Oli
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Oliver Haslam
>> >
>> > Course Developer (Technologist)
>> >
>> > Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Technology Enhanced Learning
>> >
>> > University of the West of England
>> >
>> > _______________________________
>> >
>> > T: 0117 32 88215
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> > [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave
>> > Burnett
>> > Sent: 20 January 2012 13:54
>> > To: Xerte list
>> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> > own XOT installation
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > That is correct.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: Oliver.Haslam at uwe.ac.uk
>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:56:31 +0000
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> My understanding is that if the LOs are Scorm compliant we can
>> >> upload them into our LMS (Blackboard) which will then be able to
>> >> track how/if students have used the LOs. And it allows results
>> >> from quizzes etc. to be interpreted by the LMS.
>> >>
>> >> Please advise me if I've understood this incorrectly.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Oli
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________
>> >>
>> >> Oliver Haslam
>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>> >>
>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> >> University of the West of England
>> >> _______________________________
>> >> T: 0117 32 88215
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>> >> Tenney
>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:36
>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would
>> >> be even better...
>> >>
>> >> Why?
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>> >> Haslam
>> >> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:32
>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> After some tinkering on the server (not entirely sure what) we can
>> >> now create and play LOs on our installation of XOT.
>> >> Importing/exporting of LOs works fine as 'zip export' but doesn't
>> >> work as
>> 'scorm export'.
>> >>
>> >> Trying to import as Scorm gets the following: "Upload checkFile
>> >> transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are currently imported."
>> >>
>> >> I'm delighted we've got this far but having scorm capability would
>> >> be even better...
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >>
>> >> Oli
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________
>> >>
>> >> Oliver Haslam
>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>> >>
>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> >> University of the West of England
>> >> _______________________________
>> >> T: 0117 32 88215
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>> >> Mitchell
>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 16:17
>> >> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> Also no need to apologise it was others who hijacked your subject
>> >> line ;-)
>> >>
>> >> With a new installation it's obviously a fundamental
>> >> step/requirement that creating and viewing an LO works before
>> >> trying things like exporting and importing. Clearly something
>> >> isn't right with your install and if you don't have access to the
>> >> server yourself you may need to get whoever does to subscribe and
>> >> post to this list. Pat will no doubt make additional suggestions but
my list would be...
>> >>
>> >> Check database.php and make sure the values are correct Check the
>> >> site_details table in the database especially that the various
>> >> paths are correct Check the permissions are correct
>> >>
>> >> Make sure creating/editing/viewing works before even trying
>> >> exporting and importing Once that works try exporting and
>> >> importing from the same install before trying to import a sandpit
>> >> created lo Finally try the sandpit import and post further
>> >> questions if everything but that works
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >> Ron
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian
>> >> Tenney
>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:58
>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> I notice parent_t has 8 letters - why is it truncating there? The
>> >> folder should be parent_templates... does that folder exist on the
>> server?
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Oliver
>> >> Haslam
>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 15:56
>> >> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] exporting from sandpit and importing to our own
>> >> XOT installation
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> First of all, my apologies for any confusion caused by posting to
>> >> the wrong list. I'm new in this post, new to XOT, new to how these
>> >> support lists work and I think I have been mixing up two or more
>> >> XOT problems into the same email help request. So thanks for all
>> >> the help so far and for bearing with me!
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, despite the subject line of this email (which I have
>> >> kept only for the sake of continuity!) I don't know if there is
>> >> and export issue at all but there's obviously an issue with our
>> >> new installation of XOT: I've made a test LO but when I try to
>> >> play it I get this
>> >> message: "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>> >>
>> >> I don't have access to the server files myself but will pass on
>> >> any advice received to those that do.
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks
>> >>
>> >> Oli
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________
>> >>
>> >> Oliver Haslam
>> >> Course Developer (Technologist)
>> >> Applied Sciences & Allied Health Professions
>> >>
>> >> Technology Enhanced Learning
>> >> University of the West of England
>> >> _______________________________
>> >> T: 0117 32 88215
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:25:29 -0000
>> >> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> >> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to
>> >> our own XOT installation
>> >> Message-ID: <011001ccd6ad$d212de80$76389b80$@co.uk>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> This is all going to get confusing with some of the subsequent
>> >> replies hijacking the subject line for an unrelated topic.
>> >>
>> >> Not sure if Oli has subscribed here yet either but I would
>> >> comment/add as
>> >> follows:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 1. As David has said in a subsequent reply the sandpit doesn't
>> >> currently work with the Zip local option or scrom + metadata export.
>> >> That will be fixed in future and is specific to the sandpit but in
>> >> a way irrelevant at the moment.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2. The normal Zip export and Scorm export work fine on the sandpit
>> >> and import back into the sandpit ok too.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 3. Oli my 1st suggestion would be for you to create a new test LO
>> >> on your new installation. Publish and export that. Then try to
>> >> import that back into the same installation. Does that work
>> >> without the same errors? If it doesn't then you need to resolve
>> >> the issue with your installation and this is separate from any issues
with the sandpit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 4. If step 3. did work send a copy or link of the zip you exported
>> >> from the sandpit so we can test and provide further help.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> HTH
>> >>
>> >> Ron
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> >> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>> >> Alistair McNaught
>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:11
>> >> To: Xerte discussion list
>> >> Subject: [Xerte] FW: exporting from sandpit and importing to our
>> >> own XOT installation
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi all
>> >>
>> >> I picked this up from teacher list but it more properly belongs in
>> >> here so any ideas? I'll ask Oli to ensure he's subscribed in here
>> >> to pick up the answers.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> A
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
>> >> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
>> >> Oliver Haslam
>> >> Sent: 19 January 2012 12:05
>> >> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> >> Subject: exporting from sandpit and importing to our own XOT
>> >> installation
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We finally have our own installation of XOT and I'd like to
>> >> transfer the LOs I've made in the sandpit to our own version of
>> >> XOT. But I'm having a few problems. Any help would be very gratefully
received!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a straightforward "zip export"
>> >> without any problems. And I can import the .zip into our own
>> >> version of XOT okay but when I try to play the newly imported LO I
>> >> get an error message saying
>> >> "ERROR: The file modules/Xerte/parent_t" and it won't play.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So I tried to export from the sandpit in different formats to see
>> >> if that works. When I try to export as a "Zip (local) export" or
>> >> as a "SCORM + metadata export" I am immediately logged out of the
>> >> sandpit and taken to the login page:
>> >> http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I can export from the sandpit as a "Scorm export" but when I try
>> >> to import the .zip into our own XOT I get a message saying "Upload
>> >> checkFile transfer has failed.****Only Xerte templates are
>> >> currently imported." And can go no further.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps our version of XOT is not installed/configured correctly?
>> >> But it seems the sandpit is not happy either...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Any suggestions?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Oli
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:09:56 -0000
>> From: "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>> To: "'Xerte discussion list'" <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>> Message-ID: <013701ccd785$941aac60$bc500520$@co.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hi Alistair
>>
>> you should find that both the itq site and the sandpit now both
>> display latex and also work offline when exported.
>>
>> Let me know if you encounter any further problems.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>> McNaught
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:12
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>>
>>
>> Server based version still fine but local version now hangs on
>> loading
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Mitchell
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 11:06
>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alistair
>>
>> ok try exporting again and reporting back re the same questions.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>> McNaught
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:55
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> Many thanks for speedy response.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Now it works fine on the server BUT
>>
>> 2) Local version after download doesn't work - doesn't render any
>> latex but leaves blank spaces.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that the export function that needs tweaking or something different?
>>
>>
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron
>> Mitchell
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:47
>> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>>
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>> I was updating the itq installation as your message came in - try
>> again I think you'll find it works now?
>>
>>
>>
>> However could you try exporting that and viewing locally and answer
>> the
>> following:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Does it still display the latex when viewed locally?
>>
>> 2. If it displays is it ok or is it jumbled in any way e.g. spacing
>> between lines not quite right?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW sandpit not yet updated - need to contact David about something.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair
>> McNaught
>> Sent: 20 January 2012 10:33
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Formulae and Latex - idiot's guide?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I previously creates a learning object at
>> http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_59 to show teaching staff how
>> to create formulae using simple Latex expressions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know there have been issues with the site that was used to host the
>> Latex rendering script and we now have a new solution but I'm not
>> sure how to implement the new solution so that my old learning object
>> (above) will correctly display the formulae now.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've probably missed some important comment in a thread I skimmed too
>> quickly but any pointers as to how to 'redeem' old formulae rich
>> learning objects will be very welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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