[Xerte] Re: tabbed column wizard

Sun Dec 23 22:51:42 GMT 2012

Hello RonM2,

To make the following email a bit clearer and to avoid confusion, let me
start with a few definitions

   - Page Wizards - the individual page templates that were provided by the
   pageWizards.zip file.
   - Pages Project - the new type of project available in the latest
   version of Xerte that makes available individual page templates without the
   necessity to install the pageWizards from the pageWizards.zip file.
   - Page Template - the individual page templates that are made available
   when you create a "Pages" type of project in the latest version of Xerte.
   (The Page Wizards are now deprecated, as the Page Templates offered by the
   new "Pages" type of project are effectively an improved way of delivering
   the functionality offered by the Page Wizards)

Can I ask - what is  the correct way to upgrade to v2.18? Would I install
over top of the 2.17 install or should it be removed first?

With respect to installation I don't think Xerte is to sensitive about
whether you install over the top or not.

What I suggest you do is to rename your current Xerte folder and then
install the new version of Xerte to the default folder, or just install the
new version into a different folder to that of your current installation..

You should then be able to have desktop short-cuts to both versions of
Xerte, so that you can test out the new one whilst keeping access to your
current one. Once you are satisfied you are happy with the changes
introduced into the latest version of Xerte you can then delete your
current installation.

 And – what about my existing projects which might have used the .zip
template pages – will they still run/exist or will I need to rebuild those
pages again?

 Any project created with the original page wizards will continue to work
just as it does now with the latest version of Xerte.  The new individual
Page Templates are only available in "Pages" type projects so for legacy
Page Wizard based projects you will need to install the Page Wizards from
the pageWizards.zip file into your Xerte installation if you want to add
new pages to your legacy projects.

BTW I think you had a new page for multiple movies that showed a thumbnail
along the top of the page – did that make it in to 2.18?

I think you are referring to the Multiple Perspectives page, which can be
found amongst the Media page types available when you create a new "Pages"
type of project..
If you want to create a new project in the latest version of Xerte, that
offers functionality similar but better than the original Page Wizards,
then you need to use the menu option "Pages / Create New Page Project".
This will create a new project which already includes the code that is
shared across more than one page. Once the project is created you select
the Interface icon and then click on the Pages menu to see a list of the
groups of Page Types e.g. Charts, Connectors, Games, etc. Point at one of
the group titles and a list of Page Types will be displayed. Click on a
Page Type name and a page of that type will be added to your project. Xerte
will handle the creation of any necessary folders for you.

There is a Page Template available for every page that is available in XOT
(and a few that are not available in XOT).

I was using xerte desktop 2.17  templates/navigators/column page.

The Column page in the Pages projects is simple enough to use. To add a
column you click on the New Nested Page link in the Page's Form. Every
Nested Page added gives you an additional column. The nested pages have a
number of optional properties which allow you to add an image (or I think
also a .swf file)

When you have installed the latest version of xerte remember to take a look
at "Help" folder of your new installation. There are a number of pdf files
to introduce you to some of the new page types. Note these may be slightly
out of date now, but should still prove useful.

If all the new stuff in Xerte 2.18 makes you feel like Christmas has
arrived, the good news is it has, so remember to put Xerte down and have
some Christmas fun :-)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Johnathan

On 23 December 2012 21:22, KnowledgeWare <knowledgeware at kccsoft.com> wrote:

> Hello Jonathan:
>
>
>
> Thanks for that info…. Sorry to confuse the issue.. I was using xerte
> desktop 2.17  templates/navigators/column page. And yes, this was from the
> .zip download for page templates.
>
>
>
> Can I ask - what is  the correct way to upgrade to v2.18? Would I install
> over top of the 2.17 install or should it be removed first? And – what
> about my existing projects which might have used the .zip template pages –
> will they still run/exist or will I need to rebuild those pages again?
>
>
>
> BTW I think you had a new page for multiple movies that showed a thumbnail
> along the top of the page – did that make it in to 2.18? I’m itching to get
> my hands on that one…
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> RonM2
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2012 2:36 AM
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: tabbed column wizard
>
>
>
> Hello Ron,
>
>
>
> Before I can provide more detailed help I need to clarify a couple of
> points.
>
>
>
> 1) Are you using the latest version of Xerte? This version has a menu
> option "Pages / Create New Pages Project" or are you using the original
> page wizards that came as a separate zip file that was not part of the
> Xerte download.
>
> 2) Which page are you using? There is a Column Page, a Tabbed Navigator
> Page, a Tabbed Navigator + page, but not a Tabbed Column page.
>
>
>
> Both the original page wizards and the new Pages Project individual Page
> Templates (still sometimes confusingly referred to as Wizards) both suffer
> from the same issue. They are based on pages from XOT and XOT can put some
> code in the main project to be called by individual pages. A good example
> of this is the code to support narration of an audio file when the page
> loads. To overcome this problem when I created the original pageWizards.zip
> download I also made available additional downloads to provide the code to
> support these features. However with the latest version of Xerte the
> original page wizards are now obsolete.
>
>
>
> If you have the latest version of Xerte then create a new project by
> selecting from the Xerte Menu "Pages / Create New Pages Project". This will
> create a new empty project that has all the additional code to support
> every one of the individual Page Templates. If you then select the
> interface icon and then click on the "Pages" menu a drop down list of all
> the available page types will be displayed. Select the page type you want
> to add to your project and the page will be added to your project (the
> creation of a folder for the page will be handled automatically) Then you
> can double click on the new page you have added to open the page's wizard
> form.
>
>
>
> I am sorry that at present the option to create a new pages project is not
> available from the File / New menu, which can lead to confusion. I am
> hopeful that this will be tidied up in the New Year.
>
>
>
> Please try the above and if you can't get things working let me know which
> version of Xerte you are using and which page and I will help you to get
> things working.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 22 December 2012 23:03, KnowledgeWare <knowledgeware at kccsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> I’m trying to club the ‘tabbed column’ wizard page into submission inside
> xerte desktop, but it is winning.  My page ‘name’ (title) doesn’t appear
> and I don’t see how I can control the image sizes (the images are all
> identically sized). Anyone know where I can set these things?
>
>
>
> This page was created in desktop xerte using the ‘tabbed column’ wizard. I
> created a subdirectory called ‘tabbedColumn’. Do I need to create separate
> directories for each wizard page I use…if I use another tabbed column page
> can I put it into the same ‘tabbedColumn’ directory or do I need to create
> unique directories for each wizard page? Do these directories (which
> contain their own rlm/xml files) need to be moved to the server when the
> piece is packaged…or does the packing import them into the main piece?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> RonM2
>
>
>
>
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