[Xerte] Re: Moodle filter

Sat Apr 21 16:19:04 BST 2012

https://github.com/patlockley/moodle-xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter

updated to accept XOT[] and / or any URL (see config panel).

Franck - je voudrais une version francais? M'aidez? Dans "lang"
c'etait une livre "en" avec
https://github.com/patlockley/moodle-xerteonlinetoolkitsfilter/blob/master/lang/en/filter_xerteonlinetoolkits.php

(bad french)

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Franck Petit <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
> I know that I'm being greedy but I vote for the Mahara plugin too!!!
> Franck
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Ron Mitchell
> Envoyé : mardi 17 avril 2012 21:04
> À : 'Xerte discussion list'
> Objet : [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>
> yes sounds like a good combination.
>
> Mahara has plug-ins and filters and by default doesn't allow any old iframe
> to be embedded without a dedicated filter or block type at least not prior
> to 1.5. So in 1.3 and 1.4 it's not possible to embed XOT LO's but in the new
> release of 1.5 there's a new safeIframe feature where base url's can be
> added to a php script and then iframes from those sites aren't stripped out
> by the html purifier.
> http://manual.mahara.org/en/1.5_STABLE/site_admin/extensions.html
>
> But I suspect it will be a while before at least some organisations upgrade
> so a 1.3/1.4 XOT filter/block type would still be popular.
> http://htmlpurifier.org/docs/enduser-youtube.html
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 17 April 2012 17:20
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>
> so XOT by default, and then base url if added - maybe use a * afterwards to
> say convert?
>
> Mahara has plugins?
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Yes true and in fact what if someone wants the embedded iframe and
>> below
> that a link to open the LO in a new window which is what I usually promote
> during training sessions. Without something unique like XOT[url] presumably
> the current filter would try to turn that second link to an iframe too?
>>
>> But Franck's point is valid too - switching to html view to paste
>> embed
> code does cause problems for less IT confident students and staff. However
> as I mentioned in a lot of places in Moodle, even the default 800 x 600
> dimensions cause problems either because the activity type or the overall
> theme and block layouts etc.
>>
>> Perhaps if the filter looks for the base url if configured and/or
>> XOT[url]
> that sorts those options and a site wide admin option for dimensions sorts
> the dimensions at least site wide and for more control the user reverts to
> iframe etc.
>>
>> Mahara XOT filter next? ;-)
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 17 April 2012 16:25
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>
>> I can add parameters at the end but does that not defeat the point of
>> the
> filter? Surely it's easier pasting the iframe in?
>>
>> Then do I override if default set?
>>
>> I will have a look for filters that apply to certain areas but not
>> sure if
> it is possible - thats why I preferred the XOT[] approach as you had to
> explicitly opt for it.
>>
>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 16:14, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it
>>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>>> Agreed ;-)
>>>
>>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and resizes
>>> the video player
>>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.2
>>> F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>>
>>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>>> sounds good.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 15:56
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>
>>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it
>>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>>> Agreed ;-)
>>>
>>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and resizes
>>> the video player
>>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.2
>>> F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>>
>>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>>> sounds good
>>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 14:30, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Pat
>>>> just tried this and it does indeed replace the xerte LO link with
>>>> iframe
> code but a few issues/comments...
>>>>
>>>> 1. I added an LO link as part of a moodle label so that it appears
> within the course home page and at the moment there's a bit of an issue! -
> it breaks the rest of the course page so that nothing else is shown
> including the links and icons to be able to edit the label and remove the
> link.
>>>>
>>>> 2. For this to be useful in a production environment it really needs
>>>> to
> be able to take parameters for width and height as part of the link or as
> part of the filter configuration. I know it's possible to edit filter.php
> and change the dimensions there but that's less flexible than having
> parameters or dimensions configurable via the admin interface. Ideally both
> so that admin sets optimum dimensions for the moodle site wide install/theme
> but if a link contains dimension parameters these override the defaults. At
> the very least I'd suggest the dimensions set in filter.php should be no
> more than 800 x 600 and probably less - in my experience most topic areas in
> Moodle installations are narrower than 800px. I know this mostly only
> applies to Lables but that's what a lot of people will use.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Having the base url is good but as use of XOT expands wouldn't
>>>> that
> limit potential sharing e.g. what about being able to embed
> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 in the same way? Perhaps the
> filter could look for XOT[url] as well as the base url?
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 13:00
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>>
>>>> What does the iframe show as the src?
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 12:08, "Franck Petit" <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Pat. It doesn't seem to work yet, unless I misunderstood
>>>>> something. I updated the filter, modified the base url in the
>>>>> settings as requested on the settings page by replacing the text
>>>>> with the following
>>>>> line: http://www.mydomain.eu/authoringtool/play.php?template_id=
>>>>> (authoringtool is the name of the directory for my xot install) Did
>>>>> I do something wrong?
>>>>> Franck
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Pat
>>>>> Lockley Envoyé : mardi 17 avril 2012 12:13 À : Xerte discussion
>>>>> list Objet : [Xerte] Moodle filter
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated it, try again please
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