[Xerte] Re: Moodle filter

Tue Apr 17 18:03:37 BST 2012

yes sounds like a good combination.

Mahara has plug-ins and filters and by default doesn't allow any old iframe
to be embedded without a dedicated filter or block type at least not prior
to 1.5. So in 1.3 and 1.4 it's not possible to embed XOT LO's but in the new
release of 1.5 there's a new safeIframe feature where base url's can be
added to a php script and then iframes from those sites aren't stripped out
by the html purifier.
http://manual.mahara.org/en/1.5_STABLE/site_admin/extensions.html

But I suspect it will be a while before at least some organisations upgrade
so a 1.3/1.4 XOT filter/block type would still be popular.
http://htmlpurifier.org/docs/enduser-youtube.html

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 17 April 2012 17:20
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter

so XOT by default, and then base url if added - maybe use a * afterwards to
say convert?

Mahara has plugins?

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:
> Yes true and in fact what if someone wants the embedded iframe and below
that a link to open the LO in a new window which is what I usually promote
during training sessions. Without something unique like XOT[url] presumably
the current filter would try to turn that second link to an iframe too?
>
> But Franck's point is valid too - switching to html view to paste embed
code does cause problems for less IT confident students and staff. However
as I mentioned in a lot of places in Moodle, even the default 800 x 600
dimensions cause problems either because the activity type or the overall
theme and block layouts etc.
>
> Perhaps if the filter looks for the base url if configured and/or XOT[url]
that sorts those options and a site wide admin option for dimensions sorts
the dimensions at least site wide and for more control the user reverts to
iframe etc.
>
> Mahara XOT filter next? ;-)
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 17 April 2012 16:25
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> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>
> I can add parameters at the end but does that not defeat the point of the
filter? Surely it's easier pasting the iframe in?
>
> Then do I override if default set?
>
> I will have a look for filters that apply to certain areas but not sure if
it is possible - thats why I preferred the XOT[] approach as you had to
explicitly opt for it.
>
> On 17 Apr 2012, at 16:14, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it 
>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>> Agreed ;-)
>>
>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and resizes 
>> the video player 
>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.2
>> F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>
>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>> sounds good.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat 
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 17 April 2012 15:56
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>
>>> The filter seems to apply to all text - not sure how you tell it 
>>> which bits to change. Moodle's documentation really sucks.<
>> Agreed ;-)
>>
>>> How can a link contain parameters for size?<
>> The multimedia filter looks for something like ?d=400x300 and resizes 
>> the video player 
>> http://docs.moodle.org/22/en/Media_FAQ#My_embedded_video_is_too_big.2
>> F small._How_can_I_change_its_display_size.3F
>>
>>> I can have XOT[] work as well<
>> sounds good
>>
>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 14:30, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pat
>>> just tried this and it does indeed replace the xerte LO link with iframe
code but a few issues/comments...
>>>
>>> 1. I added an LO link as part of a moodle label so that it appears
within the course home page and at the moment there's a bit of an issue! -
it breaks the rest of the course page so that nothing else is shown
including the links and icons to be able to edit the label and remove the
link.
>>>
>>> 2. For this to be useful in a production environment it really needs to
be able to take parameters for width and height as part of the link or as
part of the filter configuration. I know it's possible to edit filter.php
and change the dimensions there but that's less flexible than having
parameters or dimensions configurable via the admin interface. Ideally both
so that admin sets optimum dimensions for the moodle site wide install/theme
but if a link contains dimension parameters these override the defaults. At
the very least I'd suggest the dimensions set in filter.php should be no
more than 800 x 600 and probably less - in my experience most topic areas in
Moodle installations are narrower than 800px. I know this mostly only
applies to Lables but that's what a lot of people will use.
>>>
>>> 3. Having the base url is good but as use of XOT expands wouldn't that
limit potential sharing e.g. what about being able to embed
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_560 in the same way? Perhaps the
filter could look for XOT[url] as well as the base url?
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Ron
>>>
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>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat 
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 17 April 2012 13:00
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>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Moodle filter
>>>
>>> What does the iframe show as the src?
>>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2012, at 12:08, "Franck Petit" <franck-petit at live.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Pat. It doesn't seem to work yet, unless I misunderstood 
>>>> something. I updated the filter, modified the base url in the 
>>>> settings as requested on the settings page by replacing the text 
>>>> with the following
>>>> line: http://www.mydomain.eu/authoringtool/play.php?template_id=
>>>> (authoringtool is the name of the directory for my xot install) Did 
>>>> I do something wrong?
>>>> Franck
>>>>
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] De la part de Pat 
>>>> Lockley Envoyé : mardi 17 avril 2012 12:13 À : Xerte discussion 
>>>> list Objet : [Xerte] Moodle filter
>>>>
>>>> Updated it, try again please
>>>>
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