[Xerte] Re: Gates closed after flash bolted

[Pat Lockley]

Some interesting mobile links on android and windows (all from the
register, might include swear words)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/30/google_android_how_did_i_get_there/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/29/microsoft_extract_444m_android_payments/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/30/microsoft_advantage_over_google_android/

Interesting that microsoft makes half a billion from android. The OS
thing becomes complicated as BBM is very popular (over here), but
blackberry's aren't great.

Then you get into plugin land (see recent conversations on the BEAST
attack and firefox mulling turning Java off, and the awful way flash
works with Chrome), and the google wanting to replace javascript with
dart.

So ideally, you want content to work in as many ways as possible
(multiple players and exporters)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Oh, the other thing, is, if you read around this story a bit, is that IE will only not have plug-in support on windows phones, not the desktop. Desktop PCs will still be able to play flash in the browser. I expect windows phones will allow you to install a browser that does support flash anyway, and at the moment, Windows phones have got a long way to go to get any share of the market. There's a recent report suggesting MS might have 20% of the phone market in 2014, and that existing users take entrenched positions around their mobile OS of choice - they are very unlikely to switch, and mainly because they either love - or hate - Apple.
>
> So, Flash on the desktop will continue. Since we developed these tools for desktop delivery, nothing really changes there. It's all these new fangled phones and tablets we have to worry about...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 04 October 2011 09:30
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Gates closed after flash bolted
>
> We've made the first step, which is abstracting the data from the logic. You're backing a good horse - Xerte Online Toolkits is, basically, an XML editor as you say. Anyone/thing can get that xml and create content from it: I'm doing it with an app for android, html5 could do it, objective c could do it, php could do it, etc.
>
> At the recent developers meeting, getting towards some html 5 output emerged as a key thing for us to start to work on, to enable output to all devices, and all screen sizes.
>
> It's just a case of doing the work now...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare
> Sent: 03 October 2011 22:01
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Gates closed after flash bolted
>
> Hello Pat:
>
> I read your post a few weeks ago and noticed no replies, but it's been on my
> mind.
>
> In the long term strategy, what can be done about an unrelenting war on
> actionscript by the major players? Sooner or later it will become redundant,
> and that's a concern, especially to those of us stranded by Authorware
> ending. I remember a post from Julian some time ago saying that xerte, as an
> XML editor, could possibly be ported to another platform in the future
> should that become necessary, or at least I think that was the nature of his
> comments.
>
> The best case it seems to me would be to have it sitting on top of HTML5,
> but I have no idea if that is possible.
>
> RonM2
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:29 AM
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Gates closed after flash bolted
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/15/no_plug_ins_on_windows_eight_browser
> /
>
> Ie10 to drop flash, sort of
>
> Discuss.
>
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