[Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

Wed Nov 30 21:39:25 GMT 2011

Just did a bit more testing - seems like the standard graphics and sound
page works fine but the advanced/bleeding image page doesn't work at all -
can the latter be included somehow?

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 November 2011 21:15
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

Julian that's brilliant thanks managed to get the full version to install
via one of the emulators (see screenshot below)

I've given up trying to get it to install on my HTC Hero - perhaps the
rooted Froyo roms aren't compatible with Air and there doesn't seem to be a
robust Gingerbread for Hero so I'm not even going to attempt that but at
least I can test via an emulator.

In testing I managed to create a shared space but then removed some initial
tests and checked the shared xml and that still contains the original url's
is the shared space static or does re-sharing the same space update it? 

How is the RSS supposed to work? I've added a feed which includes a load of
LO's and I tested sharing the xml with a couple of them. All the lo's in the
feed show in the list but it seems to want to try to run the swf rather than
the xml. Does it look for the xml first and if it can't find it resort to
the swf? 

Yes I think two versions without and without air would be good - obviously
with a recommendation to only try the full version via wifi rather than 3G.

When I can find time I plan to test further and will report back. Would be
useful to know how the rss works as that seems the easiest and quickest way
to share LO's.

Cheers

Ron

Screenshots via Android 4.0 emulator

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 30 November 2011 16:17
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

OK, two versions: the one that uses the separate Air runtime

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/mobileXerte.apk

And one that has the runtime packed up in the installer

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/mobileXerteFull.apk

Also a new version of Xerte 3.0, built on Air 3.1 and Flex 4.6.

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3Beta.exe

and an updated, but not entirely up to date Mac version - Peter can you
update your SDKs and build a new one please?

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3_installer.dmg
<http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3Beta.exe> 

The mobileXerteFull works on my phone - Ron, let me know what happens? Also,
should we have two versions? I think so, because the runtime dependent one
is MUCH smaller (1.7MB vs. 24MB) although I suspect for many users making
the install as easy as possible would be advantageous. However, 1.7 MB is
manageable on 3G, 24MB is asking a bit much.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 30 November 2011 14:53
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/906/cpsid_90612.html

I'm using Xerte 3.0 to build this. I updated my SDKs to Flex 4.5.1 and Air
3.0 recently. My phone has updated itself to Air 3.0.0.408. The specs for
Air 3.0 seem the same or similar?

http://www.adobe.com/products/air/tech-specs.html

Air 3.0 has something called captive runtime support. What that means is,
yes, you can package up apps as a single file that includes the air runtime.

I've just discovered that there is a new Flex 4.6 SDK out. Hang on. (gotta
say, keeping up with Flex is a nightmare). When I've updated everything I'll
build you a one file app to try.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 30 November 2011 12:36
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

Hi Julian

a few questions...

Is there a way you can include the adobe air app within the app? I've rooted
my HTC Hero to install Froyo and tried various versions of Adobe Air but
unsuccessfully. I've also tried via the Android SDK on my Windows laptop and
various OS/Device profiles but also without success.

Is there a specific requirements list e.g. Android version, Adobe Air
version, Device compatibility?

Any progress with the iOS version? 

I'd be happy to test and provide feedback and ideas as well as cascading to
others but can't really justify purchasing yet another device to test with
especially as I wouldn't really be able to test it works until after
purchase.

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 30 November 2011 11:51
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

Yes, still working on it. I've just packed it up again for you, and could do
with a small group of people to test / feedback etc.

http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/application.apk

I could also do with some sample learning spaces for demos etc. It also now
supports 10 page types from toolkits: text, bullets, textGraphics,
imageViewer, textVideo and all the navigators, so you can produced
structured content and include text, graphics, sound and video. I think that
goes a long way to start with.

You can now publish a learning space from the phone for other users to
subscribe to. This is a beta feature: it writes xml to our web server - this
may change. So you can, using just the phone, create a learning space,
populate it with content, and publish it: I think this is potentially the
game changer.

Please try creating some spaces, publishing them, post the QR codes here so
others can attempt to subscribe etc, and let me know comments,

Julian

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Harding, Julie
Sent: 30 November 2011 11:44
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

Hello

Not heard anything on the android app for a while. Is it still in
development and are there any other features we can test out?

Thanks

Julie

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 19 October 2011 11:02
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

To build for iOS I need the relevant Apple certificates.

This, apparently, is how to get one:

http://devgirl.org/2011/06/20/flexair-for-ios-development-process-explained/

At 12 pages long, that's supposed to be an idiots guide to the process. What
century is this?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 18 October 2011 21:08
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Android App v0.0002

I'm going to have to either root my HTC or get a new device just for this!
:-( 

What do you need help with to get the iOS version working?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 18 October 2011 16:45
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Subject: [Xerte] Android App v0.0002

Updated app to try from
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/applicatin.apk . Comments and
ideas really welcomed at this early stage.

Screenshots

The home screen shows your learning spaces. A learning space is a collection
of learning resources. The buttons allow you to add a space, delete a space,
and sort by name, created date or number of views. Ultimate idea is to allow
users to share their learning spaces (somehow)

Here's a learning space, showing most of the supported things so far:

You can add content by scanning QR codes (can't screenshot that).

A toolkits folder with one learning object (now, when you add content I
check out what sort of xml I get back, so those problems should have gone.)

And LO content in the few supported pages types so far.

An RSS feed:

A youtube video (use the direct embed link, eventually I'll sniff this out
and make it easier) in the form http://www.youtube.com/embed/qmvA-OMysmM

An FLV file - mp4 should work as well.

And a sound file (with albeit pretty crude controls so far)

and you can add pretty much any web content as the phone will open anything
it doesn't recognise in the phones browser via a WebView object:

So that includes playing the LOs directly on the play_ url if the device can
cope with it..

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