[Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

Fri Nov 25 13:32:55 GMT 2011

Use whatever. There's usually something convenient lying around. My habit is for interaction icons (you're doing something)

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 25 November 2011 13:32
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

I'm setting some onscreen text immediately after the sendandLoad, and it appears, so I'm assuming the sendandload is being executed.

Can I use a display icon?

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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:22:19 +0000
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
Use the id of something else, something you know will exist after, and then try and prove the script is being called.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 25 November 2011 13:21
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

Yes

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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:18:09 +0000
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
Are you still using the page icon as the mediating iconID?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 25 November 2011 12:49
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

OK, interesting.

An rlo with the .asp in the same directory works fine.

http://www.myserver.com/ron/index.htm<http://www.hipgnosys.com/ron/index.htm>
http://www.myserver.com/ron/mailer.asp<http://www.hipgnosys.com/ron/index.htm>

If I make a model of the rlo page and import it into XOT, it stops working.
(XOT is installed in the myserver domain).

So, security (I thought it was just domain sensitive) or something XOT specific?

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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
The other thought that occurred to me was that if you could do this via getURL instead of sendAndLoad, security might not be an issue, not sure: you don't really need to get any data returned from the server, so if you can just send data to the server that might be OK. It would be good to have some sort of 'true' returned if the mails sent properly though. sendAndLoad makes it explicit you expect a return value, hence the security says 'hang on, do I allow this...'

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare
Sent: 24 November 2011 21:00
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

Yikes this is getting complicated...BTW the domain is HTTPS as well if that matters.

RonM2

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:33 AM
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

Arh, the security stuff always bamboozles me, but(I think) you need a crossdomain.xml on the server you're calling. That will allow a flash movie to make calls to that server if the domains are different. It's why we need to proxy the calls to feeds and stuff in toolkits: data we want to access elsewhere hasn't given us permission: there's nothing you can do about that in the swf itself.

I think what the System.security stuff does is to allow target.com to receive data from your swf, i.e. target.com loads and tries to access stuff in the swf itself. That's not what's happening here.

I might be well off on that...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<mailto:[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]> On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 24 November 2011 15:29
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

You are right, it is a security issue.

But this doesn't seem to do anything:

System.security.allowDomain('www.target.com');

where www.target.com<http://www.target.com> is the target of the sendandLoadVars

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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:20:32 +0000
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
And it fails there?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]<mailto:[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]> On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 24 November 2011 13:13
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

I'm running it off my server, the same one that the desktop version was developed and worked on as a published piece. Same code.
So unless the XOT install does something to permissions, should be same right?

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From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:08:18 +0000
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
Not sure: debug it.

I normally use the interactionID, but that's just habit. I think the whole page is made from the model, I don't think it dives for the children only.

Do you know if anything reaches the script?

I've got a feeling this is security, because local files will work.

Quick and easy to make a toolkits project locally and test it there.

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Sent: 24 November 2011 12:47
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page

It works locally as a single page piece.

I make a model of that page and import as Xerte content.

When I run it, I am setting onscreen text after the sendandload, which appears, so the code is executing, but the sendandload is not happening.

The page ID is  in the sendandLoad,

send_email_u2course.sendAndLoadVars....

Is the ID somehow changed when imported as a model?

> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:52:38 +0000
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
>
> It should do, yes. Make a local project so you can debug it. Is this security? Does your ado get called at all?
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of KnowledgeWare [knowledgeware at kccsoft.com]
> Sent: 24 November 2011 01:39
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Can I send mail in toolkits via asp page
>
> I have mail sending in desktop xerte 2 via sendAndLoadVars through an asp
> page.
>
> I've saved a page with an attached script icon with the email send code (as
> below) as a model and imported it to toolkits 1.5. The script icon is set to
> isFunc=0 in the toolkits version so it will execute (it's isFunc = 1 in the
> desktop version because it has to be called to execute). I'm expecting the
> code to execute and the mail to send. The testemail.asp page at this point
> doesn't need any parameters to run, it its called it will send a test mail,
> however I can't seem to call it at all with the script below.
>
> Does toolkits support the use of the script icon? Any reason I can't do
> this? Debug and trace don't bring anything up... is there a way to use debug
> or trace in toolkits?
>
> Thanks
> RonM2
>
> Works in desktop, but not after import to toolkits as a model:
>
> myData = new LoadVars(); //create the loadvars object, then add
> parameters
> myData.firstname = "Ron";
> myData.lastname = "McNutt";
> myData.email = "xyx at xyz.com<mailto:xyx at xyz.com>";
> myData.phone = "604-000-0000";
> myData.addressee = "system at xyz";
> myData.program = "test course";
>
> //now send it
> send_email.sendAndLoadVars('HTTP://www.xyz.com/cgi-bin/testemail.asp',
> myData);
>
>
>
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