[Xerte] Re: Xerte in primary schools - turning into philosophical discourse.
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Mon Nov 7 14:35:31 GMT 2011
I knew you were an optimist!!! ;-)
Op 7-11-2011 15:20, Alistair McNaught schreef:
>
> A fair point and well made! You will have noted of course my final
> point was "it could be risky putting in a functionality that could be
> used inappropriately in the distance learning context".
>
> To a large extent it's a maturity issue. The more 'accessibility
> mature' (ie aware and intelligently active) an organisation is the
> more there is to be gained by mixing and matching partially accessible
> solutions to meet particular needs. However, the concept of partial
> accessibility is dangerous in an organisation that lacks accessibility
> maturity because it then becomes an excuse for doing little or nothing
> and you can get cringe-worthy attitudes like "these resources are
> specifically designed for 'normal' people" -- which just means "I
> don't know any good practices and couldn't be bothered finding out".
>
> There's some interesting discussion to be had around the area. My
> observations would suggest there are four main categories of developer
> in relation to accessibility:
>
> ·The denialist -- doesn't consider it and wouldn't know what it
> involved or why it was important.
>
> ·The minimalist -- does what is required to cover their back in terms
> of legislation and contracts.
>
> ·The optimist -- actively tries to engage and support learning with
> the use of different resources with different levels of accessibility
> in order to meet as wide a range of needs as possible by different
> methods.
>
> ·The purist -- only creates resources that are wholly standards
> compliant and fully accessible to all users irrespective of disability.
>
> The following comments are worth noting.
>
> Purists maximise the number of people who can use their resources but
> depending on the nature of the topic and the learner, they can
> compromise on the number of people who enjoy using them. They might
> also create resources at a slower rate.
>
> Denialists, minimalists and optimists are all well served by Xerte.
>
> Purists don't use it because it's based on Flash and everyone knows
> Flash is not only proprietary but also completely "inaccessible" J
>
> A
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Dave Burnett
> *Sent:* 07 November 2011 12:46
> *To:* Xerte list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte in primary schools
>
>
>
> Alistair, is this not the slippery slope you have cautioned us of on
> other occasions?
> What of the danger of a non-accessible piece escaping into the wild,
> like a GMO?
> ;-)
>
>
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>
> From: Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:19:20 +0000
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Xerte in primary schools
>
> It's only a non-no when you have no idea who your audience is or what
> their specific needs might be - for example when creating an online
> course that could be marketed to people with different nationalities,
> disabilities or connectivities.
>
> In primary and secondary education, Xerte is likely to be used in a
> class based context - for example with an interactive whiteboard. In
> this case, teachers will often use timers to produce a creative
> tension or create friendly competitiveness between groups or even just
> help distractable pupils stay on track. For some learners that can be
> a trick that helps include them.
>
> Like many aspects of accessibility it's not the technique that is
> accessible or inaccessible but the context in which it is applied. I
> can, however, see that from a developer point of view it could be
> risky putting in a functionality that could be used inappropriately in
> the distance learning context.
>
> A
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 07 November 2011 09:58
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte in primary schools
>
> >Would be nice if Xerte had an "add page timer" option that could give
> you a countdown for doing a task under time pressure. I might copy the
> technical list into this email in case anyone there is working on a
> similar idea.
>
> I thought that was an accessibility no-no?
>
> *From:*xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Alistair
> McNaught
> *Sent:* 05 November 2011 09:43
> *To:* A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
> Toolkits
> *Cc:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte in primary schools
>
> Thanks John and Bob for the ideas -- the John's Moodle book has given
> lots of ideas already just flicking through the contents.
>
> I can see some "Xerte Spot the Difference" activities with the Morph
> Image template and some external links to jigsaws using the NewPage
> navigator template.
>
> Talking of templates I could probably do a nice "climate cross
> section" using the tabbed navigator to work down the latitudes. I'll
> try the new Hangman template and I have a great audio clip from my
> friend (who set up the charity) describing his encounter with an angry
> hippo as a child when he was head butted into the river. That will go
> really well with the audio slideshow template. I could do another
> style of spot the difference with the annotated diagram template. If
> I've got time I'll do a Camstudio screencapture describing the Savanna
> and then turn it into a synched video followed by a multichoice quiz.
>
> Would be nice if Xerte had an "add page timer" option that could give
> you a countdown for doing a task under time pressure. I might copy the
> technical list into this email in case anyone there is working on a
> similar idea.
>
> Being primary age kids I'll probably not risk the Flickr and YouTube
> templates since the results involve a degree of unpredictability!
>
> That's my weekend sorted..
>
> Thanks for the ideas -- I just needed something to get the creative
> juices flowing. I'll let people see the finished products when I'm done .
>
> A
>
> *From:*A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *Bob Read
> *Sent:* 05 November 2011 08:52
> *To:* XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:*
>
> Hi Alistair
>
> Like John I'd also recommend having a look at some on line jigsaw
> websites such as www.jigsawplanet.com <http://www.jigsawplanet.com> .
> The puzzles are made within seconds and I'm sure you could use some
> photos or images of scenes relevant to overseas development as the
> basis of some activities.
>
> Sounds like really useful project -- good luck!
>
> regards
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Read
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> *From:*A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online
> Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf Of *John
> Doubleday
> *Sent:* 04 November 2011 19:59
> *To:* XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> *Subject:*
>
> Hi Alistair,
>
> Games are the thing...online snakes and ladders....jigsaw, simple word
> search
>
> This is a Moodle2 book for teachers of 4-9 year old You may get some
> ideas.
>
> http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=55&rid=5125
> <http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=55&rid=5125>
>
> cheers
>
> johnD
>
>
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> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Alistair McNaught
> <Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk
> <mailto:Alistair.McNaught at heacademy.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I'm doing some volunteering for a small charity creating resources for
> primary school children to help them understand development in general
> and the activities of the charity in particular. We're using Xerte to
> create resources for use in the primary classroom. Whilst I have lots
> of experience with Xerte and lots of experience in teaching
> development to post 16 audiences I have little experience of primary
> classrooms so if anyone has any hints and tips about the kind of
> approaches to take, the kinds of resources I might be integrating with
> etc I'd be very grateful.
>
> Alistair
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> Interested in pragmatic inclusion- focused staff development?
> See JISC TechDis ITQ for accessible IT practice
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