[Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits

Tue May 3 11:25:20 BST 2011

Did we get anywhere?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 28 April 2011 21:33
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits

>You could measure, and give it the maximum available..

e.g. figure out what is drawing the columns and then trap the _ytile value of that last column.
Use that _ytile + 10 as the y of the drawn feedback panel.

> From: Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:24:31 +0100
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits
>
> It's easy enough. You just need a text icon for the feedback, the trick is to draw the screen to leave room for it, so the columns need to stop some distance below the bottom of the screen to leave room for the feedback. That's probably based on 514 - x so it will be easy to put in your own x to make them shorter. This is probably why I didn't do it: how much room do you need? You can't put the feedback in a panel over the interaction, because it is important the learner can see both at the same time. You don't want too much space,otherwise it restricts the number of items the interaction can handle. You could measure, and give it the maximum available... more complex, as the measuring mght be tricky.
>
> Add a feedback node to the xwd, with the other basic properties. Type TextArea height 50.
>
> Then when judging, show the feedback trough setText if some criteria met.
>
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> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com]
> Sent: 28 April 2011 19:30
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> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits
>
> I'll leave it for you then :)
>
> Unless it's worth me having a look as an experiment in coding (i.e is
> this a good place to start?)
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> > It should be easy enough to add some simple fixed feedback to the categories interactrion, as you suggest showing something like:
> >
> > 'we think the following is a good answer blah blah'
> >
> > I'm on holiday this week, but I'll look at it next week. I thought it already did offer some simple feedback, but could be mistaken,
> >
> > J
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com]
> > Sent: 28 April 2011 16:54
> > To: Xerte discussion list
> > Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > So quite a big box then :) I will see what I can code.
> >
> > Xerte OT has built in tools for submitting your stuff as OCW / OER if
> > you like into OER repositories such as Xpert
> > (www.nottingham.ac.uk/xpert). Try doing a few searches in Xpert - you
> > might find materials to repurpose, or content that would help your
> > students anyways. I helped make Xpert when I worked at Nottingham (one
> > has moved oneself to Oxford now), as well as doing the web stuff for
> > XOT (which is why i didn't reply first time to your email - as this
> > part of the code isn't what I know, but it felt a bit rude to ignore
> > it twice.
> >
> > Most academics are new to OER :)
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Davidson, Andrew
> > <Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> Hi Pat - yeah, so in the feedback in editing for this page I'd just make a list of the given categories and the correctly related items: e.g. I might write in as feedback the following:
> >>
> >> We feel the answers below are the best fit for this task.
> >>
> >> Perspective: blah blah blah
> >> Product: blah blah
> >> Practices: blah blah
> >>
> >> How did you do?
> >>
> >>
> >> With the OER/OCW question.... I'm not sure whether they have. I haven't. But I do know the course I am working on is quite specific - will check out, though, what is out there. Do you mean I could probably find a piece of content to match what I need? Sorry, somewhat new to all this.
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> >> Sent: 28 April 2011 15:43
> >> To: Xerte discussion list
> >> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits
> >>
> >> Hi Andy,
> >>
> >> Check answers brings up ticks? Well it does for me.
> >>
> >> I've never done code on this bit before of the project, but can give
> >> it a try. The feedback would just be text, and not dependant on the
> >> number of right / wrong answers?
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>
> >> P.S Has Warwick looked into OER / OCW?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Davidson, Andrew
> >> <Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>> Hi Pat - thanks for your reply. At Warwick we are using an external host - palepurple - for xerte. I am afraid I do not know how to code. I guess I was confused since on the page display there was a Check button - not sure why it's there if there is no option for feedback. So, am wondering whether the template can be amended to allow for feedback to be given or if the check button can be removed on the page display if feedback is not possible. Feedback could be formatted as a space where answers have been written down (as in what occurs with the Stimulating question feedback option). Anyway, any help would be great... if you feel inclined to give it a whirl, that is!
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> >>> Sent: 28 April 2011 13:38
> >>> To: Xerte discussion list
> >>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: categories template in xerte online toolkits
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andy,
> >>>
> >>> There isn't an option for feedback within the categories drag and drop.
> >>>
> >>> There is one for timeline / matching pairs - but this will only work
> >>> if your categories can be simplified into "Pairs".
> >>>
> >>> Not sure this helps - if you can code feedback could be coded into the
> >>> categories option - or maybe someone could help (i could give it a
> >>> whirl).
> >>>
> >>> Does Warwick have a XOT install?
> >>>
> >>> I know a few sociology people at Warwick as well
> >>>
> >>> Pat
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Davidson, Andrew
> >>> <Andrew.Davidson at warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am using the template version of Xerte Online Toolkit. I am trying to
> >>>> construct an exercise based on the Categories template in the Interactivity
> >>>> option. It allows me to do everything except add feedback. In the display
> >>>> page there is a button instructing users to 'Check answers' but in the
> >>>> construction of the page there is no place I can see that would allow me to
> >>>> add/edit feedback. If I am missing something, could you let me know? If the
> >>>> feedback option is missing, could it be added?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks in advance for your consideration of this matter.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Andy Davidson
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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