[Xerte] Re: XOT Shared Settings working for some users but not others

[Pat Lockley]

Wasn't a dig, it just feels a bit counter to what I've been trying to
do with the community. My hunch from the start it'd be something to do
with the crazy recyclebin - Nottingham's problem is surreal - and I
tried to work out why (but it was after my departure).

I helped with the moodle patch because it'd solve the lack of LDAP, so
a no ldap no moodle version makes sense - but i don't control releases
/ builds anymore.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
> I really appreciate the help you have provided Pat many thanks. This all
> started with what I thought would be a 5 minute answer to a question from a
> user but transpired to be a problem that hadn't really surfaced previously.
>
> But also my understanding of this when it was developed was that the code
> would be made available and could be part of core if you deemed that
> appropriate. As you know many people struggle with using LDAP often because
> it's not an option for them and can't always use the moodle patch either so
> a solution which provides self contained account management in XOT is surely
> a desirable option. Are you interested in including this in a future
> release?
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 24 June 2011 16:17
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Shared Settings working for some users but not
> others
>
> That half tallies in that the query looks for the root folder. Now if
> it sees the recyclebin and gets confused, the query probably doesn't
> return an id (so it dies).
>
> The recyclebin code (which was their in the beginning) was put back in
> later on and so isn't that gainly.
>
> There is an explicit create recyclebin call in index.php to do this
> (only was we could do it retrospectively).
>
> I'd imagine the sandbox new user code makes a recyclebin before hand,
> and then the recyclebin creator code gets confused.
>
> If this code was in the core, or downloadable, i'd help more - but
> this is a private fork of the main XOT code and tbh, that irks me so I
> don't feel all that oblidged to help
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Thanks for your help Pat. As you say the two recycle bins problem has been
>> unique to the sandpit and I don't know what caused/causes that. But a
>> solution for our sandpit user who couldn't share with a colleague seems to
>> work...
>>
>> The colleague created a folder in their workspace and then the user was
> able
>> to share an LO with her and it went into that folder. Probably works
> because
>> the folder the code finds is no longer recyclebin and therefore the
> sharing
>> works.
>>
>> So if any sandpit users encounter this problem a current fix is to ask the
>> colleague to whom you want to share to create a folder in their workspace.
>>
>> HTH
>> Regards
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 23 June 2011 23:34
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Shared Settings working for some users but not
>> others
>>
>> For ages the sandpit has had two recycle bins. The foldername is fixed as
> an
>> id. The name is fixed as an id, two folders with the same name. Won't
> work.
>>
>> So I'd fix the two recyclebins problem, and that's in code thats nothing
> to
>> do with me.
>>
>> On 23 Jun 2011, at 22:37, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok made some progress in identifying the difference between the test
>> account
>>> that works and the one that doesn't. The difference is in the
>> folderdetails
>>> table and I think this line:
>>>
>>> $query_to_find_out_root_folder = "select folder_id from " .
>>> $xerte_toolkits_site->database_table_prefix . "folderdetails where
>> login_id
>>> =\"" . $user_id . "\" and folder_parent=\"0\" and
>>> folder_name!=\"recyclebin\"";
>>>
>>> The account it was possible to share with had more than one row whereas
>> the
>>> other account only had one row in folderdetails and the foldername was
>>> recyclebin.
>>>
>>> If I edit that row in the db and change recyclebin to something else e.g.
>>> test then sharing works with that account too.
>>>
>>> When an account gets created is a row in folderdetails automatically
>> created
>>> and should that have a name other than recyclebin? I ask that because I
>> know
>>> there has been odd behavious in the sandpit in the past with recyclebin
>>> appearing at the top of the workspace.
>>>
>>> Does this point to a cause/solution?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>>> Sent: 23 June 2011 22:02
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Shared Settings working for some users but not
>>> others
>>>
>>> put a die in share_..... and the nobbled the javascript with alerts so
>>> it puts watchpoints in
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm testing with a local copy now so that I can see the database.
> Testing
>>>> sharing to two different user accounts one of which works the other
>>> doesn't.
>>>> No real difference in the logindetails table between the two accounts.
>> One
>>>> is ID 3 the other ID 14. The one that works username is upper and
>>> lowercase
>>>> the one that doesn't username is all lowercase. I guess that may be
>>>> irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>> I can't get any echo statements in share_this_template.php to appear.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>>>> Sent: 23 June 2011 20:51
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT Shared Settings working for some users but not
>>>> others
>>>>
>>>> Right,
>>>>
>>>> The files run, and no JS errors occur.
>>>>
>>>> As it works for some users fine and not others, the question is - what
>>>> is different about these users.
>>>>
>>>> Looking in share_this_template.php - which does the sharing - it
>>>> relies heavily on the root folder working properly.
>>>>
>>>> So I'd put some echos into this file and see what happens, but i'd be
>>>> surprised if the error wasn't caused by the self-reg code and users
>>>> which predate it.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess this might be a question for Pat...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone who uses the JISC Techdis XOT sandpit reported not being able
> to
>>>>> share LO's with a colleague who has an account on the same
> installation.
>>>> So
>>>>> I tested this myself and it seems very odd...
>>>>>
>>>>> We can give a copy of an LO to this colleague but not share.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can share LO's with some/many users but not all. There doesn't seem
>> to
>>>> be
>>>>> any commonality between who we can share with and who we can't which is
>>>>> probably why this hasn't cropped up previously. That said both Pat and
>>>>> Julian have accounts on the sandpit and I can't share with those either
>>>> but
>>>>> can with others!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've replaced the contents of /website_code/php/properties with the
>>> latest
>>>>> repository code and also with older versions neither of which have
>>>> resolved
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fiddler doesn't show any errors when trying to share an LO.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm stumped! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else had this problem? Can you share with all users on your
>>> system?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
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