[Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Julian Tenney Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Wed Jun 15 15:17:43 BST 2011


So we're back where we started?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 15 June 2011 15:16
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

And typically that brings the swf repetition back...

Whack a mole indeed...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 15 June 2011 15:01
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

But is everything else? Narration is my concern. If you can try as many combinations of the narration settings on previous pages, next pages, all pages and try navigating to them  forwards, backwards, sideways, that would help put my mind at rest.

Need to make sure that narration shows when it should show and is erased when it should erase, and after being erased is able to be re-drawn.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 15 June 2011 14:59
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

You sir, are a genius!

Working as expected now - thanks Julian :)


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 15 June 2011 11:53
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

OK, try these.

I hate the old event model in Flash 8.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 15 June 2011 11:01
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Hmm not sure if my attachment mail got through?

You can download the project zip directly from here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/SWFprob.zip

Just open the youtube page, then navigate back to the main menu to see the swf problem.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 15 June 2011 10:34
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

I can't reproduce it. Send me the project, stripped down to just replicate the problem (i.e. the smallest possible project you can make that exhibits it)

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 15 June 2011 10:33
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Does template.rlt need to replace Nottingham.rlt?

If yes - done that and overwrote menu model, restarted IIS, cleared cache, made a new Xerte and the problem still persists

:(


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 15 June 2011 10:12
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Try these. The .rlt needs renaming.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 15 June 2011 09:25
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Any luck/ideas?


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 14 June 2011 14:52
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Bear with me.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 14 June 2011 14:45
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Hmm. Just tried a new LO just in case and problem still persists. Are you using the new youtube.rlm that you sent last week?

I've exported a test as a zip which you can find here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/stuff/testvid.zip - perhaps some of the other files im using are out of date?

When I tried to upgrade the whole of our XOT site, it broke our installation, so reverted and just did the models etc and the main engine stuff.


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 14 June 2011 14:23
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Hmm. It fixed it here...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 14 June 2011 14:23
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

I hate a var collision...

Doesn't seem to have fixed it though - cleared cache, restarted IIS, tried another browser, still persists.


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 14 June 2011 13:57
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

No, a var collision. Try the menu.rlm attached.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 14 June 2011 13:23
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Don't think it's the player controls - created the attached swf - a simple shape tween.

Exactly the same happens when jumping directly back from the YT page:

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CC2B6F.5FAF25E0]

Adam

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 14 June 2011 12:30
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Interesting Problem with Swfs

Try it with a more basic swf: I have a feeling that playback controller in your swf might be causing problems. Try a simple animation and see if it works. It works for me... so I think it is something in your swf not playing nice.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 14 June 2011 08:31
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Subject: [Xerte] Interesting Problem with Swfs

I've been experimenting with toolkits, and a learning object with 'menu with page controls' navigation enabled. On my menu page, I've added the optional menu page image property. Rather than just use a boring image, I've attempted to insert a swf - which itself plays a FLV video (from our streaming server) and also has its own player controls (linked from the Xerte media files).

You can view the LO here: http://elearning.net.marjon.ac.uk/rlo/play.php?template_id=334

Hopefully you'll see that the swf video loads fine, and can be controlled by the user with the control buttons. Everything fine so far...

[cid:image002.jpg at 01CC2B6F.5FAF25E0]

Now click the menu button for 'Inserting Page Breaks: Part 1' - which loads the modified youtube page type that Julian worked on last week. This works fine also.

However, now for the interesting behaviour...while on the youtube page - use the contents button from the top menu to return to the main menu, and you should see that Xerte loads several instances of my original swf video and breaks:

[cid:image003.jpg at 01CC2B6F.5FAF25E0]

This doesn't happen if you use the previous/next buttons - it only seems to replicate when directly jumping between the YT page and main menu.

Any ideas how I could stop this? Let me know if you want me to share the swf and LO.

Adam

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 Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840

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   of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239

University College Plymouth St Mark & St John,  Derriford Road, Plymouth, PL6 8BH

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   of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239

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            Phone:  01752 636700     Web:  www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk<http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk>

 Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840

University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee

   of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239

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            Phone:  01752 636700     Web:  www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk<http://www.ucpmarjon.ac.uk>

 Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840

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   of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239

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 Principal: Professor Margaret Noble A Church of England College Founded in 1840

University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee

   of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239

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