[Xerte] Re: Xerte 2.16 Inconsistent inclusion of Page Wizard based pages

[Kemp Johnathan]

The intermittent nature of the problem has delayed my posting earlier as
everything has worked correctly, whilst I have been watching for it to go
wrong again.

However this morning I opened explorer on my projects "pages" folder. When I
started the process of adding a page using the Model Answer page wizard I
was able to observe the process in terms of changes to folders. The process
and outcome went as follows


   1. Select the interface icon
   2. Click on the templates menu
   3. Click on a Page Wizard from the list of available wizards e.g. e)
   Interactivity / Annotated Diagram
   4. When the Browse for Computer dialogue opens I navigate to the project
   folder,
   5. Expand the project folder,
   6. Expand the Pages folder (which I created earlier to hold each page
   wizard folder).
   7. Select the Pages folder
   8. Click on the Make New Folder button
   9. Enter a name for the new folder e.g. Model Answer
   10. Click off the folder name to ensure the name change is saved. The new
   folder appeared in the project's pages folder, I opened the folder in
   Explorer and it was, as expected at this point, empty.
   11. Ensure the newly named folder is selected.
   12. Click the OK button. No change to the folder it remained empty
   13. The confirm dialogue is displayed asking if I want to Open the
   wizard? Still empty
   14. Select not to open the wizard. The folder was populated with the
   three model files and a common folder. In Xerte the page failed to be added
   to the project and the last page in the project was highlighted as the
   current page.

This suggests that there is no point in the process where the user can grant
more time to Xerte by delaying an action, as the critical tasks all take
place after the final "Open the page wizard" dialogue.

I will take a look at the new editor.swf to see if I can duplicate the
problem using that.

Kind regards

Johnathan


On 13 June 2011 10:37, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> I just committed an editor.swf that does false or ‘false’ so give it a
> whirl: it goes in [xerte]/tools
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 19:30
>
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2.16 Inconsistent inclusion of Page Wizard
> based pages
>
>
>
> Could this be the same as the "false" and false??? I noticed when just
> updating my local svn copy, that you changed the unpacking for templates,
> but not for the page wizards. It only checks for "false"...
>
> Op 10-6-2011 17:06, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> If you want to look at the code, look at the function insertPageWizard() in
> the editor.fla.
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [
> mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>]
> *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 14:17
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Re: Xerte 2.16 Inconsistent inclusion of Page Wizard
> based pages
>
>
>
> I would guess that the process for creating a project from a project
> template would be fairly similar to the process for creating a page from a
> Page Wizard but I have no knowledge of the code in the Xerte engine.
>
>
>
> The only other factor that has changed is that the computer I am using is
> much faster than the old XP box I have used up till now.
>
>
>
> My thought was that there was a time issue somewhere e.g. the code that
> processed the files and deleted the common folder when done was perhaps
> trying to run before the files had been unpacked and saved to the folder.
> Would the duration of the timer be affected by the processing power of the
> computer?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
>
>
> On 10 June 2011 13:04, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> No, nothing has changed in there. There is a timer thing going on when
> creating a template project, to give zinc time to unzip the zip and let
> everything happen: because zinc doesn’t give any events for this stuff, I
> had to take a punt at a ‘3 seconds ought to be long enough’ approach.
>
>
>
> I wonder if that timer thing is also in the code that opens a page wizard:
> but I think, before I look, they are both handled by the same
> functionality??
>
>
>
> *From:* xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Kemp Johnathan
> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 10:41
> *To:* Xerte discussion list
> *Subject:* [Xerte] Xerte 2.16 Inconsistent inclusion of Page Wizard based
> pages
>
>
>
> I have been creating a couple of test projects recently using Xerte 2.16
> and the current release of the Page Wizards on a computer running Windows 7.
>
>
>
> I am adding new pages using the following sequence
>
> 1.
>
> 1.      Select the interface icon
>
> 2.      Click on the templates menu
>
> 3.      Click on a Page Wizard from the list of available wizards e.g. e)
> Interactivity / Annotated Diagram
>
> 4.      When the Browse for Computer dialogue opens I navigate to the
> project folder,
>
> 5.      Expand the project folder,
>
> 6.      Expand the Pages folder (which I created earlier to hold each page
> wizard folder).
>
> 7.      Select the Pages folder
>
> 8.      Click on the Make New Folder button
>
> 9.      Enter a name for the new folder e.g. AnnotatedDiagram
>
> 10.  Click off the folder name to ensure the name change is saved.
>
> 11.  Ensure the newly named folder is selected.
>
> 12.  Click the OK button.
>
> 13.  The confirm dialogue is displayed asking if I want to Open the
> wizard?
>
> 14.  I have tested both situations i.e. When clicking Yes and when
> clicking No.
>
> Most of the time on completion of the sequence the Page appears listed in
> the project structure panel if I did not choose to open the Wizard. If I
> chose to open the Wizard the wizard opens, and on closing the wizard the
> page is listed in the project structure. Which is exactly what is supposed
> to happen.
>
>
>
> However sometimes, and it is happening quite frequently, the page is not
> listed in the project structure. If I selected to open the wizard the last
> page in the project wizard opens. On closing the wizard the new page is not
> listed in the project structure. On examining the Pages folder the new
> page's folder has been created containing the xml, rlm and xwd files, but it
> also contains the page wizard's common folder (normally this would not be
> there. I think it gets copied there and is then deleted by Xerte once any
> required files have been copied to the Project's common folder).
>
>
>
> When this occurs I generally repeat the process but select to use the
> folder originally created when I made my first attempt. When prompted that
> the folder is not empty I select to use the folder and then the Page Wizard
> entry process completes correctly and the common folder in the Page's folder
> is usually (but not in every case) deleted.
>
>
>
> The current release of the Page Wizards does not contain any of the recent
> modifications to achieve a common set of rlm files. Most of the Page Wizards
> in the current release have been in use without change for months, some over
> a year.
>
>
>
> Did anything change in Xerte 2.16 that would affect the process of creating
> a Page Wizard based page?
>
> Could it be something to do with Windows 7?
>
>
>
> The current situation does not prevent the use of Page Wizards, it is just
> a bit frustrating and inconvenient.
>
>
>
> Anyone any ideas that might resolve this situation?
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Johnathan
>
> 1.
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