[Xerte] Re: Timed Text

[Julian Tenney]

Thanks.

This is all for Xerte 3.0, so all that is possible. I've made a component for Timed Text captions: I'm hoping other formats can be converted to timed text somehow.

J

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kemp Johnathan
Sent: 27 January 2011 19:21
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

I don't know if any of the following will help.
For a while, before I started using Xerte I did some development of avi and flv files with subtitles and / or close captions. I used the JWFLV player to play the FLV files as this supported close caption (subtitles that you can turn on and off) but I don't know of any equivalent flv player available for use in Xerte. The JWFLV player is not expensive but neither is it free.

I used Aegisub ( http://www.aegisub.org/ ) to create the subtitles as I found it easier to use than subtitle workshop, but I then exported the subtitle file to subtitle workshop for convertion to a close caption file compatible with the requirements of the JW FLV player. I believe I posted something when I first started using Xerte about the possibility of using closed captions, but the inclusion of a JWFLV player page was at the time a none starter as the program was not free. If I recall correctly close captions remain a separate file to the video file and are combined at run time, whilst subtitles are combined with the video file. When I wanted subtitles I used virtual dub to combine the avi file and the subtitle file before converting to an flv.

If you want to play around with any of this then I have attached a pdf file that is an extract from some notes I made at the time about creating video files, specifically the part of my notes that relates to subtitle and close caption creation. I make no promises about the accuracy of the notes, they are just something I put together at the time, but they may cast some light in dark corners (but not as brightly as the star of Elendil)

This is probably a good time to renew the plea for some support for close caption files in Xerte (would play lists as well be being greedy ? :-)

Kind regards

Johnathan

On 26 January 2011 16:57, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
No flv support...


From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 26 January 2011 16:31

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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

Magpie? http://ncam.wgbh.org/invent_build/web_multimedia/tools-guidelines/magpie

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 January 2011 16:14
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

It's not free and there's no demo? Not an encouraging start...

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 26 January 2011 15:30
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

Haven't used it but have you looked at Captionate? http://www.buraks.com/captionate/

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 January 2011 15:02
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

Timed Text was the steer I got from my accessibility guru. I could support multiple formats, but would prefer to find other tools that maybe convert between formats.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: 26 January 2011 14:54
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Timed Text

I've used a free bit of software called "Subtitle Workshop" to make a timed caption file for youtube videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Twy9xw9jlo) caption file attached (Sub Viewer file).

Let's you output in a few different formats, although XML isn't a default option. Txt file might be an option?

Adam

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 January 2011 14:33
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Subject: [Xerte] Timed Text

Does anyone know of any good, preferably free, tools for making timed text xml files?

I want to add some support for captions to Xerte 3.0, and am hopeful that by following the timed text standard, I will have access to loads of wonderful tools for producing timed text...


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