[Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and when not?

Wed Feb 2 16:22:50 GMT 2011

I tried a couple of different agent strings but neither fixed the problem
:-(

"server problem with code being turned on or not" can you explain further?
But also just to say this is consisten across a number of installations e.g.
only those with proxy settings added via management page display the twitter
feed.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 02 February 2011 15:41
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

There is a timeout setting in snoopy. 

It's more likely a server problem with code being turned on or not.

Google firefox agent and then paste the long agent string into snoopy.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 February 2011 15:30
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

That's my point we've been here before! :-( e.g.

http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c
om/search.atom?q=xerte 

times out

but 

http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte 

works in browser

and yet

http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://www.nottingham.a
c.uk/xerte/rss/rssfeed.xml

works

and on a server where proxy is configured so does

http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitt
er.com/search.atom?q=xerte

So on a server without a proxy configured the twitter search feed fails but
nottingham feed works and on a server with proxy configured both work. This
applies to the lo's as well as links in browser.

Is it possible there is a timeout setting somewhere which can be changed? 

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 02 February 2011 15:10
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

Renaming wouldn't help, it just seems your problem is a bit voo doo

What does 

http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.c
om/search.atom?q=xerte

bring you?

It seems to timeout to me.

Remember the all the proxy does is get the content, I can't see why it would
fail on some content and work on some content. It should be agnostic to what
the content is.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 February 2011 15:06
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

yes no feed appearing. http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13

Fiddler shows GET
/xerte/rss_proxy.php?rss=http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte but
doesn't show any error as far as I can see.

Ho would renaming the proxy file help? isn't that coded into the rlm?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 02 February 2011 14:44
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

Define work - nothing appearing?

Have you tried fiddler? Renaming the proxy file?

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 February 2011 14:42
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

Ok cheers but I'll re-phrase...

why do other rss feeds work with the rss page but the twitter rss doesn't?
If that's because twitter.com doesn't have a crossdomain file why does a
twitter feed work on an installation with a proxy configured and not work on
an installation without a proxy configured yet on that same installation
other rss feeds work?

My main question is how can I get around this if a proxy isn't available for
a particular installation or is it just a case of adding localhost and a
suitable port via the management page?

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 02 February 2011 14:12
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set
and when not?

The rss.rlm uses a proxy all the time.

A web server cannot access the internet without one, unless there is a
crossdomain.xml

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 02 February 2011 13:30
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] XOT: difference using feeds when proxy server is set and
when not?

Hi

I'm revisiting this question as I don't think we resolved it last time...

If I add a twitter search feed e.g.
http://search.twitter.com/search.atom?q=xerte to the standard rss page type
or my custom twitter page type it works when a proxy server has been added
via the management page but doesn't work when no proxy settings are added.

Here's a couple of examples:

With proxy added: http://xerte5.techdis.palepurple.co.uk/play_2237

Without proxy added: http://itq.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xerte/play_13

But what's the difference? Doesn't the rss.rlm still use rss_proxy.php
whether a proxy server is configured via management or not? Is there a way I
can get this to work without a proxy server configured?

Cheers

Ron

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