[Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
Alistair McNaught
Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk
Fri Aug 19 15:39:57 BST 2011
Looks really interesting. Could I tab my way into the content from Xerte or is it mouse dependent?
A
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 August 2011 15:06
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
The nerd part of me said straight away you could send feedback (some google docs form?).
Twasn't a lot of code.
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
Well worth doing that one: now you can embed any web based content, either via embed or object code, or by a url directly into the learning object: could refine it a bit to allow choice of size, layout, etc, but really good for integrating all sorts of things that were clumsy to do before. Cheers Pat.
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 19 August 2011 13:33
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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
delete
var close_pop_up = document.createElement("P");
close_pop_up.innerHTML = '<a
href="javascript:document.getElementById("popup_parent").removeChild(this.parentNode.parentNode)>X</a>';
create_div.appendChild(close_pop_up);
I'd create a 2d array in the JS and then when a page loads send a
message to a function which then displays all popups registered in the
array - and an array_pop to the function above to handle GC
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Yes, I'm sort of finding out the issues: got a working proto on my desktop now. First thing needed was a killPopup function... and I can add stuff to say 'if (we have a popup) kill it before making a new one,
>
> Cheers, should be able to take it from here,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 19 August 2011 11:10
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>
> seems fine to me, but this will create multiple pop ups (might need to
> be a hard-coded - click to close) option else when you move pages.....
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> Does this make sense Pat?
>>
>> function makePopUp(type,x,y,width,height,bgColour,borderColour,src)
>> {
>> //make the div and style it (we always do this)...
>> var create_div = document.createElement("DIV");
>> create_div.style.height = height + "px";
>> create_div.style.width = width + "px";
>> create_div.style.position = "absolute";
>> create_div.style.top = x + "px";
>> create_div.style.left = y + "px";
>> create_div.style.background = bgColour;
>> create_div.style.border = "1px solid " + borderColour;
>>
>> //if we make a div, set the innerHTML
>> if (type == 'div')
>> {
>> create_div.innerHTML = src;
>> }
>>
>> //else we make an iframe, so set the URL
>> if(type == 'iframe')
>> {
>> var iframe_create_div = document.createElement("IFRAME");
>> iframe_create_div.src = src;
>> iframe_create_div.style.height = height + "px";
>> iframe_create_div.style.width = width + "px";
>> create_div.appendChild(iframe_create_div);
>> }
>>
>> //we're done: append the finished div
>> document.getElementById("popup_parent").appendChild(create_div);
>> }
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 17 August 2011 18:40
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>
>> In zip modified preview_xerte_top - including fixed link for testing (and functions and slight HTML mods)
>>
>> and modfied rloobject.js (wmode = opaque) to allow for zindex pops up above the flash.
>>
>> DO NOT ADD TO YOUR SITE THESE ARE DEVELOPMENT VERSIONS
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com<mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>> i was more thinking text focus on pop up?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Julian Tenney
>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>> We can scale the div based on the stage size when the function is called, but resizing it if the stage is resized afterwards would be pain. Let's get a basic version working, then we can figure out the other bits and pieces.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 11:03
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I would make it dynamically this way you could create multiple
>>>> pop ups. And it would solve the "why can't it take this format issue".
>>>> Then I'd recode media + quota to allow for a JS pop up code block as
>>>> well?
>>>>
>>>> Might mess with the accessibility though.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>> What happens when Joe User changes the size of the stage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you easily code me a makeDiv() function?
>>>>>
>>>>> makeDiv(x,y,w,h,src,draggable);
>>>>>
>>>>> x: x coord of the div;
>>>>> y: y coord of the div
>>>>> w: width of the div
>>>>> h: height of the div
>>>>> src: either the html for the div, or a url for the iframe: the
>>>>> function can decide which it is [if (src.substr(0,1) == '<' or
>>>>> similar]
>>>>> draggable: whether to all the div to be draggable or not - default
>>>>> false
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>> Lockley
>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 10:26
>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, perhaps a "draggable" and or / an 'src' option which could do an iframe?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> I'd wondered about a hack I'd seen somewhere else, where you can position the div with the funny content in it over the flash movie at a place / size of your choosing, making it appear part of the flash content itself: then you could put up a whitepanel type page, and pop, say, a windows media player control over the top of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would we do it? With a new page type?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preview_xerte_top is the place for any js functions that xerte
>>>>>> calls: adding
>>>>>>
>>>>>> makeDiv(x,y,w,h,htmlSource) //does that sound the right approach?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be easy enough...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:58
>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J, hows about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A bit of JS you can trigger inside the play screen which pops up a
>>>>>> div within the window itself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd guess it wouldn't be a lot to code (i'd offer) and it'd mean
>>>>>> the people with non-content would have an answer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>> This will update all the templates stuff: I'm just trying to
>>>>>>> unpick from the svn logs the various changes / dependencies etc.
>>>>>>> Then you can update your templates to those in 1.6, and leave the rest of the application as it is.
>>>>>>> Bear with me...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>>> Lingard
>>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:29
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow, thanks Julian. We've not upgraded to 1.6 yet, presumably
>>>>>>> we'd need to as well.
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'll need to update some files: bear with me and I'll make a zip
>>>>>>> for you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>>>>> Lingard
>>>>>>> Sent: 17 August 2011 09:27
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Julian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are using the Online Toolkit and my understanding was that
>>>>>>> newWindow is not an option in this version?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by svn - I'm new to Xerte
>>>>>>> and have limited technical knowledge (not just of xerte!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Julian Tenney
>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the newWindow page there is an optional 'html' property. If you
>>>>>>> add that property, you can write HTML for the webpage that will
>>>>>>> open, so put your embed code in there, and it will be passed to
>>>>>>> the new window to become the newWindow's source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you can embed whatever you want, and there's no need to move
>>>>>>> the media from its home.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You might need an updated newWindow model from the svn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>>>> Lockley
>>>>>>> Sent: 16 August 2011 17:59
>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Using <embed> tag in Online Toolkit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <a href="url" target="_blank">link text</a> is the only option
>>>>>>> short of media converting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> depends on what else you'd want to do, the xerte code lives inside
>>>>>>> a div, so you could write a popup div block of code. Inside that
>>>>>>> DIV is an iframe. Use javascript to set that iframe SRC and show the div.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That might be a feature worth coding.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Matt Lingard <mattlingard at gmail.com<mailto:mattlingard at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks Pat. That's good to know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case, we were hoping to keep the media on it's existing
>>>>>>>> server rather than having to copy it to our xerte server. Not
>>>>>>>> possible I'm guessing.
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Pat Lockley
>>>>>>>> <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com<mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can use the media and quota tab in properties to upload any
>>>>>>>>> file, it'll then give you the HTML <a> tag for that file. Still
>>>>>>>>> a target="_blank" in there and it should open in a new window anyways.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Matt Lingard
>>>>>>>>> <mattlingard at gmail.com<mailto:mattlingard at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > From browsing back through various messages I'm pretty certain
>>>>>>>>> > the answer is "no", but just wanted to be 100% certain that
>>>>>>>>> > I'm understanding Xerte (as a newbie).
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I want to be able to embed some video in a template created
>>>>>>>>> > with the online toolkit. The code I've been supplied with is
>>>>>>>>> > an <embed> and the files are mp4. Am I correct that this is a
>>>>>>>>> > non starter? And is this because Xerte is Flash rather than
>>>>>>>>> > HTML?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > And finally, I've seen a few 'new window' solutions... is this
>>>>>>>>> > a feature of the desktop version rather than the online
>>>>>>>>> > toolkit?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>>>>> > Matt
>>>>>>>>> >
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