[Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

[Julian Tenney]

1 will be the way we ship it to suppress those errors. Folk can turn it on if they like.
2. instructions need to be included in the moodle patch docs.
3. I'll check that as well.

Now we are all more dispersed, we ought to use a bug / issue tracker? Worried things will get missed, however we ought to have a developer in place later this year.

Maybe we need a xerte_developers list? Not everyone wants / needs to read all this.

Would like to introduce a quarterly update cycle as briefly discussed, with phases for wish list, prioritisation, development, testing and delivery. We need some online tools we can all write to to support that - any suggestions or thoughts?

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 12 April 2011 10:50
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

Have been doing all that and Pat has been kindly responding off-list too.
This thread has obviously gotten lengthy with different issues discussed so
I'll summarise what I've found so far:

1. If using/testing the beta from the code repo with the latest Xampp line
23 of config.php needs to be uncommented so that error reporting is
supressed e.g. ini_set('error_reporting', 0); otherwise I get the Strict
standards error

2. When using the beta with the moodle patch line 203 of config.php needs to
be commented e.g. //session_start();

3. I was getting two empty alerts after editing an LO, clicking publish and
closing the editor. These are the alerts that are supposed to show when to
close the editor without clicking publish first but for me they were/are
showing even when clicking publish before closing the editor. Pat isn't
getting this and nobody else has reported it so maybe it's only a problem on
my setups but I am/was getting the same thing on a localhost install as well
as a live server install. I say "was" because I just tried yet another new
localhost install and I'm not getting the error. So will do some more
testing and report back if I find anything.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 12 April 2011 10:18
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

Please use the code repo for testing: there are some changes in there that
aren't in the zip file.

Also, export it from your checked out folders, so you don't get all the
hidden .svn stuff.

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 11 April 2011 19:23
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

Ok quick update... I installed the beta on a live linux box and get the same
problem on that using demo.php and switch.php so not sure why others aren't
reporting the same issue?

I should clarify this is the beta from the code repository rather than the
zip download. So...

Is anyone else testing the beta?
Do you get alert windows after editing an lo and then closing the editor?

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 11 April 2011 18:03
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

Is nobody else testing the beta and reporting the same issues?

I guess points to clarify: I'm testing with a Windows 7 64bit laptop and
latest version of Xampp. This is a new install of the latest beta and I get
these alerts when closing the editor window regardless of browser used. I'm
using demo.php for testing.

Not sure where to look for the cause of the error but if nobody else is
reporting the same issues perhaps it's specific to my laptop. I'll try an
online installation but can only do that on linux at the moment rather than
a Windows box.

HTH
Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 11 April 2011 17:13
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2

i think those are the get arrays sent, not the data sent back.

If you have an agreement with Pat Lockley from Nottingham to get paid
then please invoice him.

I am now trading as Pat Lockley at Oxford.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
wrote:
> If I view the two alerts in fiddler
>
> the first is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/template_close.php
>
> the second is /website_code/php/versioncontrol/update_file.php
>
>
>
> fiddler text view for  the first says file_path=36-guest2-Nottingham/
>
> and for the second file_path=undefined
>
>
>
> *re invoicing*
>
> you mean I can get paid for this testing? ;-)
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:15
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Can you fiddler it for me? Suspect it's stray whitespace.
>
>
>
> *checks GPS*
>
>
>
> Hold on I am in Oxford.....please send me an invoice
>
> On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:42, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Ok thanks Pat I commented out session_start(); in config.php and all seems
> fine - at least I can create projects. I'll create a new moodle patch with
> that line commented or an instruction to comment out that line.
>
>
>
> I do still get a couple of pop up alerts though which I think I reported
> before e.g. Click create and editor window opens, add a page, click
publish,
> close the editor and in Safari and IE I then get 2 alerts. In IE I first
> get:
>
>
>
> <image001.png>
>
>
>
> Then if I click OK
>
>
>
> <image002.png>
>
>
>
> If I click cancel on the first alert I don't get the second. This happens
on
> the standard beta via demo.php as well as with the moodlepatch applied.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 11 April 2011 13:09
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> I would imagine it is now that the session start call has moved.
>
>
>
> That's all the changes in the config file. Session.PHP has pretty much
been
> depreciated. Can you do a diff over the two files. I suspect that the
> changes in moving session start into config will be the cause
>
>
>
> Pat
>
> On 11 Apr 2011, at 12:34, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Pat great that you managed to find that.
>
>
>
> One that was sorted I tried the moodlepatch and unfortunately that no
longer
> works. :-(
>
>
>
> I'm guessing it's due to moving the session stuff to the database? With
the
> patch applied I get redirected to login to moodle and then back to
toolkits
> but can't create any projects. I wasn't getting anything on create with IE
> but if I use safari when I click create the editor pop-up contains the
> moodle login page. That list of what's changed would be useful or more
> importantly what's changed that's breaking the moodle patch? It looks like
> anyone using the moodlepatch shouldn't upgrade to the toolkits beta until
we
> can fix this.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 09 April 2011 13:46
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> There was a stray whitespace character.
>
>
>
> The beta version is an amalgam of the old zip, our main site and our dev
> site.
>
>
>
> Hence lots of files moved and one must have introduced this. Added some
> whitespace remover and ie is now fine.
>
>
>
> I will list the changes made later on.
>
> On 8 Apr 2011, at 16:48, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:
>
> with  //ini_set('error_reporting', 0); I got the strict error and no
editor
> pop-up on create in IE8 but...
>
>
>
> with ini_set('error_reporting', 0); the error is supressed and the editor
> pop up on create now works even in IE8!
>
>
>
> What was the cause/solution?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 08 April 2011 16:24
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Ok, new files in the SVN - make sure you've a session.php in the root and
> look for template_management.js
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:59
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> As I'm sure you're aware I'm just trying to help resolve bugs. I can use
> browsers other than IE but many can't. Would be good if other could test
the
> beta with old and new xampp and IE and report back.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:49
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> It's the usual reason a session fails. Am a bit pushed at the mo but it'll
> be a session problem somewhere.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:48
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Just to clarify - the code was commented out in the beta download - so
> confused now :-(
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 08 April 2011 15:19
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Errrrr. Yes J
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:50
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> When clicking create fiddler doesn't pick up anything happening even if I
> comment out the ini_set.
>
>
>
> At the bottom of config.php I have
>
>
>
> /*require_once("session_handler.php");
>
>
>
>
>
>                $session_handle = new toolkits_session_handler();
>
>
>
>                session_set_save_handler(
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_open'),
>
>
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_close'),
>
>
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_read'),
>
>
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_write'),
>
>
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_destroy'),
>
>
> array(&$session_handle,'xerte_session_clean'));*/
>
>
>
>
>
>                session_start();
>
>
>
>                $_SESSION['toolkits_sessionid'] = session_id();
>
>
>
>
>
> }
>
>
>
> So isn't that already commented out?
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 08 April 2011 13:29
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Can you remind me of the fiddler text so I can send you a php file
>
>
>
> I bet it's sessions - so for now - comment out the session code at the
> bottom of config.php, but leave in session_start()
>
>
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 07 April 2011 19:10
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Hi Pat
>
> it looks like it's the xampp upgrade to the latest version that has caused
> this problem with the editor pop-up and IE8. I've been testing further and
> even an older localhost XOT version/installation which didn't have the
> problem now doesn't display the editor when creating an LO. Also that same
> older installation now displays the strict standards error when deleting
an
> LO:
>
>
>
> <image001.png>
>
>
>
> Also now when creating an LO using Safari I get the editor pop-up but the
> strict error regarding database.php:
>
> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in
> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14
>
> If I then refresh, select the new LO and click edit I get the editor
window
> with its usual functionality but the same error at the top of the window:
>
> Strict Standards: Creating default object from empty value in
> C:\xampp\htdocs\moodle\xerte\database.php on line 14
>
>
>
> If I add ini_set('error_reporting', 0); to config.php of the old
> installation the error is suppressed and safari works fine and I even get
> the editor on create with IE. However having ini_set('error_reporting',
0);
> in the beta config.php doesn't fix the editor pop-up issue with IE.
>
>
>
> Does this help identify the cause/solution?
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
> Sent: 05 April 2011 21:19
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Possibly. Ajax can be handled differently, as can the perceptions of the
> values returned. Firefox handled Ajax differently to ie it took ages to
get
> it to work for firefox in the early days
>
> ________________________________________
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:49 PM
>
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> So a php error specific to IE? e.g. seems to be working fine in Safari and
>
> Firefox.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:18
>
> To: Xerte discussion list
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> The js issue is caused by the PHP failing, the php will be echoing an
error
>
> that the JS cannot handle, hence the JS dying.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:17
>
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> why? Isn't that a .js issue?
>
>
>
> I wonder if anyone else is testing the beta and can test with IE8?
>
>
>
> Fiddler doesn't show me anything when I click create.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:05
>
> To: Xerte discussion list
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> So that's php dying - fiddler?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 18:03
>
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Ok cheers thanks for the explanation.
>
>
>
> The lack of editor pop-up on create that I'm getting is with IE8 version
>
> 8.0.7600.16385
>
>
>
> Error happens in both 32bit and 64bit but just tried the 64bit IE and got
an
>
> error pop-up on create:
>
>
>
> Webpage error details
>
>
>
> User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64;
>
> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
>
> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; Tablet PC 2.0; .NET4.0C)
>
> Timestamp: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 17:01:14 UTC
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: Invalid argument.
>
> Line: 1187
>
> Char: 4
>
> Code: 0
>
> URI:
http://localhost/xertebeta/website_code/scripts/template_management.js
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:42
>
> To: Xerte discussion list
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> Uncomment as not being reported. It's a brand new issue due to a language
>
> change from 4 to 5 and to fix it means revisiting every single page (i.e.
>
> not going to happen for this release - given that line suppresses it).
When
>
> I get time I will sort it out properly, but I'd also add in database
>
> abstraction too.
>
>
>
> I had something odd earlier in chrome, and I don't get pop up issues in FF
>
> or IE or chrome here (ie7).
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 17:38
>
> To: 'Xerte discussion list'
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> ah ok you meant un-comment?
>
> That's got rid of the strict error but does that mean the error doesn't
>
> exist or just isn't being reported?
>
>
>
> I was thinking that error might be causing the problem when I click create
>
> and the editor doesn't appear but it seems not because that problem still
>
> exists and it isn't due to a pop-up blocker. e.g. I select the xot
template,
>
> give it a name, click create and no editor appears. Refresh the browser
and
>
> then see the LO and can select it and click edit and the editor appears.
>
> However this only seems to be a problem in IE as it works fine in Safari
and
>
> Firefox and I guess may be specific to my IE/configuration?
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
>
> Sent: 05 April 2011 15:51
>
> To: Xerte discussion list
>
> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Beta version 2
>
>
>
> The ini_set is error_reporting, 0 ?
>
>
>
> Remove the commenting then i.e run that function.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> F
>
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