[Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT

[Julian Tenney]

Don't you have to turn out for a roast swan and a 500 year old bottle of port later on?

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 11 April 2011 17:06
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT

But if the URL is a get array (i.e a series of & and =) then this can
be jumbled into a store and the most ID like thing found (9 random
letters and numbers?)

Well the sun went in at 2, and sadly, this means the University
sundial stops working, so it means we can go home. Will advise on
vegan scone availability when I stay at work till 4.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> The format changes. So the rules change. So your previous assumptions on how to break up the url change.
>
> Do they serve tea and scones at 4.00?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
> Sent: 11 April 2011 16:57
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> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT
>
> Do we have a list of strings it needs to work on anywhere?
>
> Is the ID not always in the URL?
>
> So if you split the string on '&', or maybe '=', could you traverse the pairs.
>
> (I think I must be very important at Oxford - i have a whole office to
> myself, either that, or I am in the wrong room. Have a mooring spot
> for my punt though).
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> I can fix that. But how do we get a better fix that doesn't include having to handle every single way youtube might present it's embed code? This is becoming a maintenance headache.
>>
>> I need the video id. With that I can request the video via the api. I don't need all the embed code.
>>
>> We could insist that people just enter the ID? I preferred to handle all the embed code to make it easier on users. But at this rate I'm going to have an if then for hundreds of cases, and I don't want to do that.
>>
>> Maybe a regexp, but it needs to be one that never ever breaks, ever...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem
>> Sent: 08 April 2011 14:15
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT
>>
>> What a ludicrously simple fix, LoL.
>>
>> Thanks Tom
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> From: Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>>
>> Reply-To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
>> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:18:12 +0200
>> To: Xerte discussion list <xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT
>>
>> Just to confirm my previous remarks:
>>
>> Xerte (and Xerte Beta) on Linux
>>
>> This one works:
>>
>> [cid:part1.09080607.08010906 at tor.nl]
>>
>>
>>
>> And this one does not:
>> [cid:part2.02080708.05020501 at tor.nl]
>>
>> The difference is the checkboxes below. They change the embed code. In this case it adds the ?rel=0 to the src url.
>>
>> The code tries to get the src url between the quotation marks and places that in a new url. The new url has already a ? mark in it, so the second embed code adds a question mark.
>>
>> Two solutions:
>> 1. Permanent is change the youtube.rlm, so it removes any parameter, see attached 2. Hand edit the embed code and remove anyything including the question mark between the ? and " in the src url. This allows for some quick testing, whther I am correct.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> Op 8-4-2011 13:27, Adam Salem schreef:
>>
>> The plot thickens indeed...
>>
>> Our install is running on Windows Server 2008 R@ with IIS 7.5.
>>
>> So I guess linux isn't the bugbear here...
>>
>> Richard if you look at the video request URL that gets sent when you try to play the video (With Fiddler or Charles) is it malformed? I.e. Has 2 ?'s in it?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On 08/04/2011 12:00, "Richard Layden" <r.layden at bradfordcollege.ac.uk><mailto:r.layden at bradfordcollege.ac.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> My colleague raised this very problem with me just a few days ago but I haven't had time to look into it in detail.
>>
>> We have a couple of Toolkit installs (both of them internal only) and the clips will not show.  To be honest we put it down to network changes in-house..
>> The thing is... YouTube clips had been working just fine a few weeks ago.
>>
>> My other colleague has a toolkits install hosted on his own external-facing server - he can embed YouTube clips and they play.
>>
>> If we export one of his objects and import it onto our internal servers it does not play.
>>
>> Now here's the odd bit
>>
>> If we then re-export the learning object back from our internal server to Tim's external server it stops playing on his server.
>>
>> The only other thing to add is that our servers are running Linux.  We are using the updated YouTube.rlm file as well
>>
>> I'm only coming to this second or third hand btw - I haven't looked at it myself - only reporting what my colleagues have found (and now I see that Tom has emailed something I'll take a look)
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
>> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:39
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Youtube Issues: XOT
>>
>> As an addendum - I think we thought that as google couldn't ping the URL
>> - it might not let the video play.
>>
>> If someone else could test this on an intranet version of toolkits that'd be handy.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Salem
>> Sent: 08 April 2011 11:32
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Youtube Issues: XOT
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I emailed the list some time ago with an issue I was having with Youtube, having been off for a bit I'm coming back to this and still having issues.
>>
>> I'm embedding a Youtube video using the new iframe embed code with the latest copy of Youtube.rlm as well as Youtube.swf checked out from the svn today.
>>
>> The Youtube video simply does not play. Sadly the server I'm working on isn't externally publicised so I can't link you to the object but the video is set as Unlisted on Youtube but embedding works with that same video on a Moodle install that resides on the same server as XOT.
>>
>> Using Fiddler it appears that the URL used in getvideo is malformed, exactly how, I don't know. The Embed contains only one ? Yet the URL being sent to Youtube contains 2 ?'s, thus breaking it. If I manually change the URL to be correctly formed and paste it into a browser, it works.
>>
>> Any ideas what could be causing this?
>>
>> Manu thanks
>> Adam
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