[Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
Adam Read
aread at marjon.ac.uk
Thu Mar 4 11:54:54 GMT 2010
Hadn't tried Firefox but it does indeed work in that.
Still not working in IE8.
Not sure how to work fiddler.
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 04 March 2010 11:45
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
is this the script failing to load in firefox bug from the other day?
Fiddler?
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of Adam Read
Sent: Thu 04/03/2010 11:04
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
Still breaks in Moodle for me after making those changes to scormRLO.htm
:(
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
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Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 10:53
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
Got it:
It was the styles thing: make these changes to the html: specifically body and div tags:
<body onload = "initialise();" onunload = "finish();" style="margin:0; width:100%; height:100%; min-height:100%;">
<div style="min-height:100%; width:100%; height:100%;">
J
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of RonM
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:40 AM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
I posted about this issue previously (see subject: scorm object white screen) but hadn't discovered that it was the default size option that was causing the problem. Thanks Adam! At least knowing that's the conflict provides a short term solution e.g. set size to default. This has actually cropped up many times but has seemed intermittent - it now seems clear that the difference is the default size setting.
I've just tested the same LO I was using previously to test the problem and as soon as that's set to default rather than full screen or full window the LO works when imported as a scorm. However as Adam says when imported as a normal zip the fill window works too. It seems likely that there's some incompatibility between the Moodle scorm code and the full screen fill window code.
You're right Julian - given that the only interaction tracked at the moment is the Quiz page type there's few advantages and many disadvantage exporting and importing as scorm. I usually recommend that people either link to and use the moodle quiz for quizzes or separate LO's so that only LO's using the quiz page are exported and imported and the others are just linked or embedded.
It would be good to identify where the code conflict lies and fix it at some point because dynamic sizing is definitely desirable but I simply don't have time to explore that at the moment.
Cheers
Ron
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 10:05
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
The dark grey box is just the background: don't worry about that.
So it works locally. It doesn't work in Moodle. So what does Moodle do to it to break it? Any other moodlers got any insight?
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:48 AM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
I actually didn't think of just linking to it in XOT. Of course then we can't use any grading stuff which scorm allows.
>> Does it fail even when the package is just run locally, and you've clicked through the API errors to run the piece?
The scorm package loads locally but has some weird size: big grey box underneath the RLO and weird behaviour on changing size'
[https://owa.nottingham.ac.uk/exchange/cczpl/Drafts/RE:%20%5bXerte%5d%20interesting%20problem%20when%20using%20SCORM%20in%20Moodle.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg]
Cheers
Adam
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 04 March 2010 09:41
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
The problem needs looking into. I think it is something to do with the styles in the html. Compare the code in scormRLO.htm to the code in a normal index.htm -that might help track it down.
But why export it anyway? Why not just link to the resource from moodle? That way you can easily edit and update the resource from toolkits, copy it, give it, duplicate it and adapt it - and all that good stuff...
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:38 AM
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Subject: [Xerte] interesting problem when using SCORM in Moodle
Hi all
Been experimenting with Moodle using some Xerte RLOs and uncovered a problem. Exporting a XOT RLO as scorm and importing into Moodle using the 'add an IMS package' works fine and runs as should. However, setting the 'default size' in XOT for the RLO to either Full Screen or Fill Screen breaks the RLO in Moodle - it completely disappears and leaves the following error :
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; chromeframe; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MJStf; InfoPath.2; MJStf)
Timestamp: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:28:37 UTC
Message: Object expected
Line: 82
Char: 4
Code: 0
URI: http://moodle.marjon.ac.uk/file.php/13/moddata/resource/52/scormRLO.htm
If I export the RLO as a zip package and then link to the index.htm page it displays fine from Moodle with the screen default size set.
Any ideas why this might be? I'd prefer it if we could use the full screen option so that the RLO resizes to match the users browser window - and still import as scorm (most our students will use laptops which chop off the bottom of the default sized RLO)
Adam
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Adam Read
Learning Technologist
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
aread at marjon.ac.uk<mailto:aread at marjon.ac.uk>
tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673
Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building
twitter.com/adamread<http://www.twitter.com/adamread>
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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University College Plymouth St Mark & St John
Derriford Road Plymouth PL6 8BH
Phone 01752 636700 Web marjon.ac.uk
Principal: Professor Margaret Noble
A Church of England College Founded in 1840
University College Plymouth St Mark & St John is a registered charity the trustee of which is a company limited by guarantee registered in England No. 986239
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