[Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta

Tue Jun 29 15:32:21 BST 2010

S'OK I can replicate it easily...

Duh

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 29 June 2010 15:30
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta

That should not be happening, but it seems you have some evidence that
it is.

In the editor / preview, when you click the stop button, the piece is
unloaded; when you click the play button it is first unloaded and then
re-loaded, so it ought to be killed when you preview each time.

I might need to be able to reproduce this to investigate further, are
there some simple steps I can follow?

-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
Huppertz
Sent: 29 June 2010 15:16
To: Xerte discussion list
Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta

I somehow have the feeling, that the editor, each time I press on
preview, launches another preview on top of the old one. At first
processor level is at around 30% (which unfortunately is normal when I
run Parallels). After the 5th preview at already added another 10% of
processor usage. Also I saw, that a debug output from the videos synch
event from a previous preview still runs, when I start a new preview
(showing the old value, showing the new, old, new and so on). Could this
be a general problem or is it perhaps only my parallels?

P.S. I installed a virus scan. Nothing found yet (I'm not using window
to access the internet, but nevertheless, it should be more secure to
use a virus scan anyway)

On 17.06.2010, at 18:09, Dave Burnett wrote:

> 
> 
> <Data>KERNELBASE.dll</Data> 
> 
> O/S level fault.
> Something is trying to access memory that is empty or being used by
something else.
> 
> Run any anti-virus progs lately?
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>> From: peter.huppertz at baselgovernance.org
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:42:34 +0200
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So you mean starting windows 7 in safe mode and than working with
Xerte3? I can try that!
>> 
>> I'm logged in as Administrator. The Event log says:
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1000
>> 
>> 2
>> 
>> 100
>> 
>> 0x80000000000000
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 6023
>> 
>> Application
>> 
>> PETERHUPPER155C.BASELGOVERNANCE
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> Xerte3.exe
>> 
>> 3.0.0.0
>> 
>> 4b8ec3ff
>> 
>> KERNELBASE.dll
>> 
>> 6.1.7600.16385
>> 
>> 4a5bdaae
>> 
>> e06d7363
>> 
>> 00009617
>> 
>> 83c
>> 
>> 01cb0e2117656d54
>> 
>> C:\Users\Administrator\Documents\My
Dropbox\xerte3\Xerte3Editor\bin\Xerte3.exe
>> 
>> C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll
>> 
>> 63212ec0-7a22-11df-a07e-001c42e3bf69
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm also running Xerte and the Xerte files on Dropbox (which
synchronizes my data). Perhaps this could be a possible cause of the
error, too. So I will first try to run it from a "real" local folder.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 17.06.2010, at 17:20, Dave Burnett wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Running as administrator?
>> Can you get it to crash in Safe Mode?
>> 
>> Of course, running in an emulated environment will make t/S'ing
torture.
>> ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: peter.huppertz at baselgovernance.org
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:14:21 +0200
>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The other message is:
>> 
>> "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library,
>> 
>> Runtime Error!
>> 
>> This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an
unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more
information."
>> 
>> Doesn't help much I guess.
>> 
>> Which version of Windows are you running. Mine is Windows 7, 32Bit?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17.06.2010, at 16:48, Julian Tenney wrote:
>> 
>> I've not had that issue - anyone having any problems on Windows?
>> 
>> Good to know you're running it happily (mostly) on a Mac...
>> 
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
Huppertz
>> Sent: 17 June 2010 14:29
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> 
>> By the way. Every so and so often Xerte3 stops working on my machine,
when I try to preview my piece. So, it is still beta and it all in all
works quite stable. Just to let you know. The windows problem report
tells me the following:
>> 
>> Problem signature:
>> Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
>> Application Name: Xerte3.exe
>> Application Version: 3.0.0.0
>> Application Timestamp: 4b8ec3ff
>> Fault Module Name: StackHash_60fb
>> Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
>> Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
>> Exception Code: c0000005
>> Exception Offset: 01e904f3
>> OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
>> Locale ID: 1033
>> Additional Information 1: 60fb
>> Additional Information 2: 60fb842a311a2446090dd9b3ca6a8cc0
>> Additional Information 3: 58ce
>> Additional Information 4: 58cea03b8888b08d649428f51069fe71
>> 
>> I'm working on Windows 7 in a Parallels installation on my Mac. So
there are many players involved ... Also sometimes it complains about
something with the C++ runtime ... before it stops working. If it helps
I will include the error message when it comes up again.
>> Will there be by any chance a Mac Version of Xerte3 in the longer
run?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 17.06.2010, at 14:34, Julian Tenney wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Get the built version from
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3beta.exe
>> 
>> Alternatively, yes the svn is always up to date with my files,
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
Huppertz
>> Sent: 17 June 2010 13:33
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> 
>> This looks good! I guess it is already available in the svn
repository?
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 16.06.2010, at 17:57, Julian Tenney wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> OK, now you can dock / undock the properties panel, output panel, and
preview panel; the props and output can be minimised / restored and the
windows can be resized by dragging the bottom right corner...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
Huppertz
>> Sent: 14 June 2010 10:39
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure I will leave them all docked ...
>> 
>> Regarding the Output window I could even imagine that one would be
able to close it. If you are done with the main debugging of your piece,
I would prefer to close it and thus have more free space for (visual)
development.
>> 
>> One very nice feature to be included would be the preview from
current page. I'm now on creating the 12th page of my piece and clicking
eleven times to see it is doable, but not very convenient (on the other
hand this makes sure that you keep your e-learning piece focussed on the
most important topics :-)).
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 14.06.2010, at 11:28, Julian Tenney wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It will change the size of the stage: you might be building a big 920
x 780 application , or you might be building a 320 x 240 embeddable
widget for a web page: I thought it useful to be able to quickly set
some commonly used sizes;
>> 
>> Saving settings, yes, absolutely, when I get some time...
>> 
>> The next thing on my list is to allow the output panel to undock and
either float free, or dock beneath the tree and properties panel.
>> 
>> Then I want to allow the preview pane to undock and float free;
>> 
>> I think that's all the docking that really needs to happen?
>> 
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter
Huppertz
>> Sent: 14 June 2010 10:25
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] Xerte 3 Beta
>> 
>> This looks good!
>> 
>> You included a resolution switch for the Preview Panel. Will this
allow us to change the actual zoom level or will it be a kind of "how
would my application look like on a cell phone?" thing?
>> Also it would be perfect if Xerte will be able to save the workspace
settings, when you close it (size of the panels, docked/undocked). Don't
forget a kind of reset option than. From my experience some users are
experts in screwing up the whole UI and this gives them the wayback
machine.
>> 
>> Thanks for the new version!
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 11.06.2010, at 17:09, Julian Tenney wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just drew North Korea in the office sweepstake.
>> 
>> If you're following Xerte 3 developments there is a new version for
your delectation at
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/xerte/downloads/xerte3beta.exe
>> 
>> Some pretty significant UI changes which I think are major
improvements. The properties panel still undocks, it just makes more
sense to start out docked I reckon. Eventually I'll get around to the
other windows and get them docking / undocking as well.
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