[Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Fri Feb 27 15:05:11 GMT 2009

I like the idea - it's another way of persuading people in.

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 27 February 2009 14:56
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

It is pretty much what adobe connect does already(?) and would give people the benefit of repurposing existing content and then adding extra to it?

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: 27 February 2009 14:47
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Not a tool I've really used. It would give staff a way of getting their old PowerPoints into Xerte via OpenOffice import and Impress>swf export so there's a lot of attraction in some ways to some staff. I'd rather staff used Xerte than PowerPoint but recycling some Ppts may be a way in for some and at least lets them feel their legacy resources could be used effectively. 

A

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 27 February 2009 14:24
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Is it worth doing something with Impress whilst we are here?

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: 27 February 2009 14:00
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Yes, the Xerte toolbar is much better but I don't know Flash so couldn't comment on how Wink does it technically.

There are several freeware or cheapware tools that create Flash (eg Swish, SwiffRec) but I think Wink has far and away the biggest following.

A

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 27 February 2009 12:46
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

How accessible do you consider the wink output to be? I just tried things like tab / keyboard control and it's not there. I'd like to override the wink control bar with the native Xerte ones, but not sure it that's possible at the moment,

J

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:42 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Very good idea to make a wink template - it could be the easiest way for non-techies to get multimedia swf files.

A

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From: "John Sewell" <John.Sewell at HEAcademy.ac.uk>
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Sent: 27/02/09 09:17
Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Yes definitely

John

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 February 2009 23:19
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

OK, so we know we can support wink in Toolkits - is Wink worth a page type in the Page Templates? Then we could be fairly sure it would work as you want, and could provide options for how it was delivered. It strikes me that having support for a free screen capture tool would be handy for a lot of folk, right?

J

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk on behalf of RonM
Sent: Thu 26/02/2009 22:35
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Pat
>From my tests that definitely changed the size but didn't play the swf.
I
don't know if the Wink version makes a difference but with the portable wink I've tested with its unchecking the preloader and using the moviesize and interactivity options which make the difference. Created an example/tutorial
here: http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xerte/wink_example
Ron

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Patrick Lockley
Sent: 26 February 2009 17:38
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Looks like I am supporting wink now as well then :)

Please repoint your browsers at
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_876

You'll note the first page swf is small and the second page swf is massive.

To get a full size (unshrunk?) swf from wink - do the following

Project | Project Settings | Change Output File Type to "Uncompressed Macromedia Flash (*.swf)"

Then render as you normally would.

The file was ten times bigger (in terms of file size), so you may want to experiment with what works best.

Hope this helps

Pat

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 February 2009 17:26
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

As Pat said, most likely the movie was in fact just very small - I'll try it myself tomorrow, but the example Paul sent works now you can override width and height,

J

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:21 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

I've tried using Wink swfs with Xerte but had no success - I just got a blank stage loading (with the Wink control bar I seem to remember) - clearly there was something there but it didn't seem happy to display.
I'm quite keen on using Wink to generate quick instructional video clips for Xerte and would certainly be interested if anyone finds out why the wink swfs didn't work.

A

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Paul Manthey
Sent: 26 February 2009 16:08
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte] Using Xerte with Wink

Dear list,

are there any caveats in using Wink as source for swf files (e.g. in

page templates)?

I used Wink for a demo of  an ip-telephone, saved as compressed swf

file. This file  I
inserted in a flash page. The preview showed every time (independent of

various
changings in size, background, speed rate etc.) that cursor movements

and dynamic
content changes between the Wink frames were not totally erased. They

were aggregated
like shadows giving the impression of writing on already used paper.

I would appreciate every information on that subject, because it seems

to be of general interest.

Paul Manthey

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