[Xerte] xhtml

Wed Dec 2 14:59:03 GMT 2009

We take the same view. Toolkits is designed to take away some decisions
that you don't want to put in the hands of your users - you can add to
styles.css on your server if you want. End users can't change styles
because I think the results would generally be poor, or incompatible
with all the accessibility stuff.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:57 PM
To: 'Xerte discussion list'
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

I could but I thinking about scalability. The cool thing about XOT is it
unlocks the power of Xerte for the whole campus, rather than having to
worry about the standalone version everywhere.

it's not a major issue as not many people here would be competent enough
to create their own stylesheets.

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:49
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

Could you not just add your styles to the default sheet the LO is using?

Dave

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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:41:16 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

Ah I see, I'll give that a miss, I'll just end up breaking it!

What is an "icon" then? I presume we're not talking the fluffy little
boxes on my desktop?!

It might be a nice feature to be able to import additional styles in
toolkits to let us web developers make things look pretty J - surely if
css is coded to w3 standard the accessibility stuff should still work?

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:33
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

The icon property doesn't load a stylesheet. It, er, loads an icon...

If you want to load stylesheet in toolkits, I think you'll have to
modify the Nottingham.rlt file and put it on the LO icon in there. Use
the 'stylesheet' property.

Beware what this will do to all the accessibility options in the bottom
of the interface...

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[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

The only difference I can see is that my stylesheet isn't called
style.css (but I presume this makes no difference?...if it does I'll
sulk in the corner).

I remoted into the server just to check the css file is in the media dir
- it is.

produces:

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 14:16
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

You're doing something wrong, as your example works for me - see
attached.

Do you have FileLocation + 'styles.css' on the LO icon? Can't really see
what else it could be.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:12 PM
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

Hi Dave

Adding a space after the colon doesn't make any difference. Just to
check I copied the example css from the wiki:

link

{

            font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

            size: 12px;

            color: #00DDFF;

}

and then linked this to my LO using the icon property on the root
learning object page

on an introduction page tried using <link>this is some styled
text</link>

publish/view = no style

L

any other suggestions?

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 tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673

 Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 12:22
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

Think you need that space after the colon.

Also, this helps:

display: inline;

Otherwise if tags are nested you get a line break.
Paul discovered that one.

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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:14:55 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

OK, so I've created a CSS file with

niceText 

{

font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

color:#009999;

font-size:40px;

}

Located it using the Learning Object icon resource.

In a text area I coded:

bla bla bla <niceText>testing the style</niceText> bla bla bla

published and viewed but the style hasn't changed. Am I doing something
obviously wrong?

(I tried #niceText in css and lowercase variations to no avail - I also
tried a la xhtml syntax but that didn't work
either).

Adam

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 tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673

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From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett
Sent: 02 December 2009 11:52
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

You can also create your own tags in the stylesheet.
Check the archives for the discussion recently.

Dave

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From: aread at marjon.ac.uk
To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:47:53 +0000
Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

Lovely stuff, thanks

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 Adam Read

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 aread at marjon.ac.uk 

 tel: 01752 636700 ext: 5673

 Room 563, Kirby Cudmore Building

 twitter.com/adamread <http://www.twitter.com/adamread>  

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 02 December 2009 11:44
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Subject: RE: [Xerte] xhtml

There is. Its in the helpfile:

You can format text with html tags. The HTML tags supported are <a>,
, <li> . You can also specify a style
sheet for the learning object on the Learning Object icon's properties.

From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Adam Read
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:41 AM
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Subject: [Xerte] xhtml

Is there any documentation outlining what xhtml tags Xerte will
understand? It seems to work with some tags (e.g. <li>) but not others.

Thanks

Adam

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