[Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
Eloy Muñoz
eloyms at gmail.com
Wed Jun 4 11:08:17 BST 2008
Hello Julian,
I am following up your advice and I am trying to solve problems one by
one. I am trying to get a title on the SWF I am loading externally.
First I did is finding the text I want to get from the XML, this was:
I created a Script object inside of the section I want to have the
head loading (titleUpdate).
I used debug(templateData.presentation[0].LOtitle); Like this I found
the title I wanted to upload.
Next step, I want to send the information to the .swf and here I have
questions, I understand that I should do this to get it done:
I first tried to use the top page (where I load the .swf) as a
container (id= interface), like this:
interface.clip.titleUpdate(templateData.presentation[0].page[0].name);
But it didn't seem to send the information.
Then I tried to create a graphic to hold the .swf but it doesn't seem
to work either, is not even importing the .swf Is it because of the
structure of the techDIs?
How do I send this information to my .swf?
Thanks again for your patience,
Eloy.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Tenney Julian
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Use a script icon in Xerte and use debug(templateData.nodeName[0].childNodeName[0].attribute); etc to explore the object. Be careful if you change the structure of the template, because some code in there might rely on it being a certain way.
>
> Pass data from xerte script to your swf using techniques in the example I sent yesterday.
>
> Break the problem down into smaller steps. You're attempting quite complex stuff here, and the techDIs template is quite advanced, and you're new to Xerte. Take it one step at a time. The debug() function is your friend.
>
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy Muñoz
> Sent: 03 June 2008 16:04
> To: Xerte discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>
> I have placed the var and the function on the .fla file. I uploaded a version with that code here:
>
> http://www.meymun.com//xerte01/latestVersion01v6.zip
>
> The commands:
>
> templateData.template[0].page[0]
>
> Where do I need to insert them in Xerte? and How do I get them in the texfield on my flash movie?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Tenney Julian <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Is data.xml the xml file that drives the template? It's already loaded
>> for you, and is available as an object called templateData in Xerte.
>> It is converted to an object so you can use dot notation to drill into
>> it, using the node nakes as the nested objects. Thus, if data.xml is
>>
>> <template>
>> <page title="My Page">
>> <info>info goes here</info>
>> </page>
>> </template>
>>
>> You can (in xerte) use templateData.template[0].page[0].title to
>> access the info 'My Page', similarly
>> templateData.template[0].page[0].info gives 'info goes here';
>>
>> Where are you writing this code? There is no 'var' or 'function' keywords in xerte script.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy Muñoz
>> Sent: 03 June 2008 14:19
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>
>> Hello Julian,
>>
>> And again, thanks a lot for all the help you are giving me here. The information you give me on the email helps me. But I still have the following problem to understand why this isn't working for me:
>>
>> When I started the first day with Xerte, I tried to get the information from the .xml file over to the .swf I used a common way to do so:
>>
>> var xml:XML = new XML();
>> xml.ignoreWhite = true;
>> xml.onLoad = function() {
>> var nodes = this.childNodes;
>> numOfItems = nodes.length;
>> for (var i = 0; i<numOfItems; i++) {
>> myTexth1.text = nodes[i].attributes.name; myTexth2.text =
>> nodes[i].attributes.LOtitle; } }; xml.load("data.xml");
>>
>> Where myTexth1.text and myTexth2.text are the instances of my two headings on the movie. This system works when I double click the .swf and finds the .xml file, but when I am publishing the Xerte application, it doesn't work anymore.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong here? The xml.load() is the problem?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help,
>>
>> Eloy.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Tenney Julian <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> OK, I just wanted to know what sort of language to use in my response.
>>>
>>> Taking apart the techDIS template and trying to change it to meet your needs is an interesting way of taking your first steps with the tool. It's quite an advanced piece. I'd stick to some simple prototypes to figure out the particular things you need to understand. Don't panic if this takes you a little while. Break down the problems into smaller ones.
>>>
>>> The fla you sent won't open for me in Flash 8. Xerte is compiled for FP8 / AS2, so first of all make sure the swf you are trying to use is built with those settings.
>>>
>>> It might help you to understand that the .rlo file is an .xml file. That .xml file is parsed by the Xerte engine to create the learning object. Each node in the xml file contains the data needed to instantiate classes. The class instances are all movieclips. For instance, a display icon in the xerte editor is really an xml node that loooks something like this:
>>>
>>> <DIS name="graphic" id="img1" x="20" y="20" ...etc.../>
>>>
>>> The engine reads through the xml file, node by node and creates the movieclips described in the xml. Each movieclip can be referred to with script, using the 'id' property you gave it in the xml file, and you can then accessit's properties / call it's methods. All icons have all the properties, methods and events that movieclips have, plus some extra ones. Each movieclip has a property called XMLElement which you can use to access the raw xml data used to instantiate the mc, and you can traverse the xml tree using the usual nextSibling / firstChild / childNodes[i] / parentNode properties.
>>>
>>> So in the example above, in a script icon in Xerte, img1.XMLelement
>>> would be the xmlNode <DIS name="graphic" id="img1" x="20" y="20"
>>> ...etc.../>
>>>
>>> The xml node of the page it belongs to would thus be
>>>
>>> img1.XMLElement.parentNode;
>>>
>>> The xml node of the framework it belongs to would be
>>> img1.XMLElement.parentNode.parentNode;
>>>
>>> The number of pages on it would be
>>> img1.parentNode.parentNode.childNodes.length
>>>
>>> You can use this knowledge to access the raw xml data for things like names, counts, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> Working directly with xml is not always convenient. Instead you can also refer to the methods and properties of the movieclips themselves. This is maybe what you find confusing. There are two hierarchies: an xml tree (the rlo file), and a hierarchy of nested movieclips (created from the rlo file).
>>>
>>> Does this help?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy Muñoz
>>> Sent: 03 June 2008 12:12
>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>>
>>> I have fairly good experience with AS 1.0 and 2.0 and I am also very
>>> familiar with XML. I have no experience with AS3.0 and fery low with
>>> flash components,
>>>
>>> I am not a programmer, I work in Marketing, but I have made myself learning objects before in flash that pull information from an external XML at runetime.
>>>
>>> I believe I have for now a problem with the concept from Xerte, I am not sure what can I send from Xerte and how, and I dont know either what kind of information can I get in my swf.
>>>
>>> I believe as soon as I figured out the how Xerte works, I will have no problem with the tool, I believe is a nice tool to use in the future.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Eloy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Tenney Julian <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> How much experience do you have with Flash, Actionscript and XML?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy
>>>> Muñoz
>>>> Sent: 03 June 2008 11:33
>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I have been using Xerte for a few days and I am getting ahead in my learning curve, but some things are still a bit of a problem for me to understand.
>>>>
>>>> I have been working for hours trying to figure out how to insert a page count into my template (I am using the TechDis template as a model). I am still having a problem to understand the communication between the Xerte interface and my custom interface. I did try to apply the .rlo that Julian shared yesterday -when I look at it, it makes sense, but I am still unable to get the info from Xerte. I believe I am not clear on the hierarchy of elements in the Xerte interface.
>>>>
>>>> I have uploaded my template here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.meymun.com/xerte01/latestVersion01v5.zip
>>>>
>>>> In sum, what I am trying to do here are two things:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Make a page count
>>>> 2. Get the title of the Learning Object and the titles of each page into my template.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone can give me a hand on this I would very much appreciate it, I am hitting a wall here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot to everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Eloy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Eloy Muñoz <eloyms at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the effort,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will start playing with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Eloy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Tenney Julian
>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I just made a very quick example that you can find here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~cczjrt/custom.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It shows passing through that info from the rlo to the custom interface. The fla is included. You should be able to work it out from there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The .xtp is a zip file. Just zip up the files and rename it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have fun,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy
>>>>>> Muñoz
>>>>>> Sent: 02 June 2008 16:17
>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Julian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to ask you if you can give me further explanation on two things:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Importing the titles into my swf. I thought I had it figure out importing the nodes straight from the XML but I am still having problems, can you give me an example on how to do it with the standard Xerte settings with the id.clip.myFunction(params) function you recommended me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - I will also appreciate if you can send me the fla with the squared icon to count the pages you have on the standard layout.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Other question I have, how do I create the .xtp files for my template?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for all your help, I really appreciate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Eloy Muñoz <eloyms at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Julian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your response, I got it up and running.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tenney Julian
>>>>>>> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In the swf you develop for the framework controller, you can place funstions todo whatevr you want, and call them from script in Xerte.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Give the graphic icon you load the swf into an id; The timeline
>>>>>>>> of the swf you load can be accessed through id.clip;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you can call your own functions with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> id.clip.myFunction(params)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Eloy
>>>>>>>> Muñoz
>>>>>>>> Sent: 31 May 2008 10:35
>>>>>>>> To: Xerte discussion list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello Mark,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. What I am doing is taking away the default interface and substituting it for a custom interface I am doing. For doing it I based myself on frameworkTemplate.fla The problem I have is the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On this .fla, I don't have the page count icon and it wont load me the titles of the pages as well as the title of the learning object.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have seen on the .xml file of the example that there is a:
>>>>>>>> LOtitle="This is the Learning Object Title"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was thinking that there might be a function already that I can use to send this parameter to my flash interface.Otherwise, any idea on how can I do that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:19 AM, mark.tomlinson at acns-group.com <mark.tomlinson at acns-group.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Usint the default interface, the page titles are set for you based on the title properties of your pages you add.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have a look at a page and change it's title property. Is this what you are looking for?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "Eloy Muñoz" <eloyms at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:38:28 +0200
>>>>>>>>> To: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>>>>>> Received: 31-May-2008 09:41:41 +0100
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte] About frameworkTemplate.fla
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am new to Xerte and I might be asking something very stupid,
>>>>>>>>> but, is there a frameworkTemplate.fla where I can see the
>>>>>>>>> rectangular icon with the page count and the instances to
>>>>>>>>> import the LOtitle and Page Title?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eloy.
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> http://www.meymun.com/
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>>>>> Thank
>>>>>
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