[Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
Tue May 17 13:19:19 BST 2016 

Ok Doodle link is http://doodle.com/poll/gxxiv9474y63v9ns would be good if
everyone could respond by the end of this week especially those flying off!
;-)

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 17 May 2016 12:49
To: 'For Xerte technical developers' <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

Good idea

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Sent: 17 May 2016 12:02
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

Is it worth scheduling an online meeting to discuss all this in detail?
There might be scope to discuss when we might all get together to work on
this too?
I know Tom, Inge and Fay are off to the Apero conference at the end of this
week and I think Julian is swamped with other stuff but perhaps once our
'conference reps' are back they could update us from the conference and we
could discuss this and other developments at the same time? Worth doing a
doodle to check availability say week beginning 6th June?

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 17 May 2016 11:24
To: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) <info at pgogywebstuff.com>; For Xerte technical
developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

Don't see why not.... it would all be js which has to run to generate the LO
anyway. JS is one of the things least affected by browser security as you
can just load it into the head programatically and as long as it's the same
domain you can run it.

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From: Pat Lockley (Pgogy) [info at pgogywebstuff.com]
Sent: 17 May 2016 11:19
To: For Xerte technical developers
Cc: Smith, John
Subject: Re: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template

Would that work if locally ran exported?

On 2016-05-17 05:29, Smith, John wrote:
> When Fay and I initially changed the models into a more object 
> oriented format I had the idea to have the css and html containers all 
> js based and created as the result of calling a method of the page 
> model object. That way you could load the css into the head (or
> anywhere) and you you could load the containers into any other 
> container. This would give the possibility of loading all the page 
> models on the fly when the learning object loads and also allow for 
> example a "page preview" popup box to be loaded in the editor. You'd 
> pass additional parameters to these functions to determine how the 
> html/css is built and where it would be loaded to...
>
> So you'd just have a couple of methods like
>
> buildCSS ( .... ) { ..... }
>
> buildContainer ( ..... ) { ....... }
>
> The CSS/HTML would either just be written out as strings or built on 
> the fly using jQuery constructors and then send on to the next stage.
> Either way it would be customisable....
>
> It would be a lot of work but it would give the most flexibility, 
> including being able to render multiple LO pages in a single html page 
> which is what we need for printing etc.... Once xenith and a single 
> page model was working though it would be relatively easy to convert 
> the rest.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney 
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 17 May 2016 07:22
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
>
> Seems a good idea to me: if we were doing it from scratch, how would 
> we have implemented it? With specific model ids?
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom 
> Reijnders
> Sent: 16 May 2016 20:06
> To: For Xerte technical developers <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Model specific css of Nottingham template
>
>
> Option 2 is an interesting one! I can do that quickly....
>
> Thank you!
>
> Op 16-5-2016 om 20:46 schreef Pat L (pgogy):
> Place one model specific id at a higher level?
> Or change body class on page turn?
>
>
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> Date: 16/05/2016 19:25 (GMT+00:00)
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Model specific css of Nottingham template
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> Hi All,
>
> When we discussed H5P on the development day in April, we discussed 
> that it might be a good idea to look at the aesthetics of all the 
> models again and see if we can improve them.
>
> One of the experiments I did, was to extract all the model specific 
> css in a separate file, and include that file in the rloObject.htm and 
> delete the inline styles from the model.
>
>  1.  It make it possible to override model specific css  2.  It make 
> it possible to override model specific css in the themes
>
> Regrettable, that doesn't work, because the models do not use 
> independent html id's and classes.
>
> What I would like to propose is to:
>
>  1.  Make sure all the id's and classes used in a model file are 
> unique for that model (by prefixing?)  2.  Extract the inline css from 
> the model files in a central file
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> Just to be able to override css in a LO specific custom stylesheet and 
> in a theme.
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> Any objections and/or other suggestions?
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