[Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Jul 17 11:58:54 BST 2015
Has to be caching. It fires for me.
Op 17-7-2015 om 12:56 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> Which is where I’ve worked my way to, but still can’t get this alert
> to fire
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:52
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Strange, because it's really called on line 609
> Caching?
>
> Op 17-7-2015 om 12:48 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:47
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Yeah, I found it, not sure what happened there. If I make the
> first line of that function an alert(“setting”); it never fires
> (at least I never see the alert).
>
> Where do I set the initial sizes / percentages, and a minimum width?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:44
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Line 618?
>
> Some of the static values set in setupMainLayout are overridden by
> dynamicResize()
>
> Op 17-7-2015 om 12:41 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> If I search for ‘dynamicResize’ in that file, nothing is found.
>
> There appear to be a load of settings for initialising the
> layout, but changing them doesn’t appear to make any
> difference to anything, in setupMainLayout().
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
> Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:35
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Look at dynamicResize in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js
>
> Op 17-7-2015 om 12:14 schreef Ron Mitchell:
>
> While you're searching ;-) try to find where the extra
> slash is added which breaks the bootstrap media links
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:06
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This is where time just disappears for me trying to do
> this stuff, I have to resort to searching for class names
> in all the files to find references, and then try and
> unpick what’s doing what and all I want to do is set three
> minimum widths and three initial widths. That should be
> six lines of code, preferably in the same place, and it
> should take two minutes to change. Here I am an hour later…
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:04
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I don't think anything's minified (but I also don't know
> my way around the workspace stuff to advise where to
> change stuff either)
>
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> behalf of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
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> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:00
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Fair dos.
>
> I’m not sure whether the jquery layout stuff has source
> files, and then a minified runtime file? I can find some
> setup info, but changing anything doesn’t change anything.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:59
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure without looking. Busy with something more urgent
> right now but can have a look later if you haven't found
> it by then.
>
> Want to test Fay's additions too but non-xerte stuff to
> finish first. :-(
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:50
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Do you know how to set the initial width of the panels?
>
> Can we apply a minimum width to prevent folk making it too
> narrow? (less important)
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:36
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Aside from closing the 6 issues we currently have on
> github flagged as v3 release personally I think the most
> important thing with this is getting a panel of logos
> complete with links in the footer somewhere. I don't think
> your solution of adding the OSI logo alongside the Apereo
> logo top right is the right solution for 2 reasons:
>
> 1. The vast majority of organisations using Xerte that I
> know of (and I'm sure Tom echos this) want their own logo
> either top right or top left. We have a built-in solution
> for that but it means one or other of the 'official' logos
> get removed.
>
> 2. Ideally I think we want each of the logos to also link
> off to the relevant site pages.
>
> The CSS isn't right, especially the logos, but something
> like this?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 09:16
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure authoring on phones is viable though? My Asus
> transformer has 800 px width; the iPad 750, which ought to
> be plenty. Do we want to progress looking at this before
> we release the code? I’m happy to do the work, but find it
> a bit slow picking through the code / implications for
> languages, and I’m a bit time limited over the next few weeks.
>
> Perhaps make it a 3.1 thing and get concentrate on getting
> v3.0 out the door
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 17:06
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> > How wide is portrait view on a tablet?<
>
> What tablet? ;-)
>
> Attached is a screenshot from my iPad - appears to be
> 1536px wide in Portrait view. But I suspect the lowest
> common denominator is less than that. e.g.
>
> http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 16:01
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This looks nicer I think (I haven’t managed to sort the
> search box styles yet). Presumably we can fix a minimum
> width for the panel? Things get screwy when it is smaller
> than about 540 pixels. How wide is portrait view on a tablet?
>
> I know these are small issues compared to a lot of things
> we’ve worked through lately, but for some users, the look
> and feel is really important and sometimes it’s just a few
> small things that really make the difference.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 15:38
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not wedded to the search box being at the top.
>
> Although I wondered about the How to, feedback and site
> links etc being in an orange menu to the right of the Sort
> menu and then leaving space for a centered logo panel in
> the footer.
>
> Shouldn't the heading you've added by My Projects and left
> aligned?
>
> Agree the middle panel should be wider by default and the
> left panel narrower to accommodate that.
>
> Something like this mock up?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:54
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I was thinking it makes sense to have similar things in
> proximity. Both the search and the sort are to do with the
> workspace items, it makes sense to me to put these
> controls together.
>
> Also this is a consistency thing: some tabs have titles,
> some don’t. Either let’s give them all titles, or let’s
> lose the big header on the tabs altogether maybe: if it’s
> not serving any purpose, why use the space? Also with
> this, the headers create a division / barrier between the
> projects and the controls to edit / properties etc.
> Previously these controls were much more clearly
> associated with the list of projects in the workspace.
> Could we put those buttons in the header perhaps? It does
> make sense that they are more closely associated with the
> project list, as the projects are the things they control.
>
> By default the project details tab, the central one,
> doesn’t look very nice as it’s very narrow.
>
> This is what we have now, which I like a lot: it’s clean /
> FWS etc.
>
> And this is what we have in x3 which looks nice, but could
> still do with a few tweaks to make it really lovely:
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:44
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I would leave the search box where it is but make it less
> wide and put the title to the left. It seems more
> inuititive to have the search at the top rather than the
> bottom.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Workspace Layout
>
> What do you think of the idea of moving the search box
> down next to the ‘Sort your files’ drop down, and then we
> can give all three tabs titles:
>
> Your Projects, Project Details, Project Templates
>
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