[Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Jul 17 11:44:39 BST 2015
Line 618?
Some of the static values set in setupMainLayout are overridden by
dynamicResize()
Op 17-7-2015 om 12:41 schreef Julian Tenney:
>
> If I search for ‘dynamicResize’ in that file, nothing is found.
>
> There appear to be a load of settings for initialising the layout, but
> changing them doesn’t appear to make any difference to anything, in
> setupMainLayout().
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:35
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Look at dynamicResize in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js
>
> Op 17-7-2015 om 12:14 schreef Ron Mitchell:
>
> While you're searching ;-) try to find where the extra slash is
> added which breaks the bootstrap media links
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:06
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This is where time just disappears for me trying to do this stuff,
> I have to resort to searching for class names in all the files to
> find references, and then try and unpick what’s doing what and all
> I want to do is set three minimum widths and three initial widths.
> That should be six lines of code, preferably in the same place,
> and it should take two minutes to change. Here I am an hour later…
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:04
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I don't think anything's minified (but I also don't know my way
> around the workspace stuff to advise where to change stuff either)
>
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> Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
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> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:00
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Fair dos.
>
> I’m not sure whether the jquery layout stuff has source files, and
> then a minified runtime file? I can find some setup info, but
> changing anything doesn’t change anything.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:59
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure without looking. Busy with something more urgent right
> now but can have a look later if you haven't found it by then.
>
> Want to test Fay's additions too but non-xerte stuff to finish
> first. :-(
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:50
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Do you know how to set the initial width of the panels?
>
> Can we apply a minimum width to prevent folk making it too narrow?
> (less important)
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:36
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Aside from closing the 6 issues we currently have on github
> flagged as v3 release personally I think the most important thing
> with this is getting a panel of logos complete with links in the
> footer somewhere. I don't think your solution of adding the OSI
> logo alongside the Apereo logo top right is the right solution for
> 2 reasons:
>
> 1. The vast majority of organisations using Xerte that I know of
> (and I'm sure Tom echos this) want their own logo either top right
> or top left. We have a built-in solution for that but it means one
> or other of the 'official' logos get removed.
>
> 2. Ideally I think we want each of the logos to also link off to
> the relevant site pages.
>
> The CSS isn't right, especially the logos, but something like this?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 09:16
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure authoring on phones is viable though? My Asus transformer
> has 800 px width; the iPad 750, which ought to be plenty. Do we
> want to progress looking at this before we release the code? I’m
> happy to do the work, but find it a bit slow picking through the
> code / implications for languages, and I’m a bit time limited over
> the next few weeks.
>
> Perhaps make it a 3.1 thing and get concentrate on getting v3.0
> out the door
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 17:06
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> > How wide is portrait view on a tablet?<
>
> What tablet? ;-)
>
> Attached is a screenshot from my iPad - appears to be 1536px wide
> in Portrait view. But I suspect the lowest common denominator is
> less than that. e.g.
>
> http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 16:01
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This looks nicer I think (I haven’t managed to sort the search box
> styles yet). Presumably we can fix a minimum width for the panel?
> Things get screwy when it is smaller than about 540 pixels. How
> wide is portrait view on a tablet?
>
> I know these are small issues compared to a lot of things we’ve
> worked through lately, but for some users, the look and feel is
> really important and sometimes it’s just a few small things that
> really make the difference.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 15:38
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not wedded to the search box being at the top.
>
> Although I wondered about the How to, feedback and site links etc
> being in an orange menu to the right of the Sort menu and then
> leaving space for a centered logo panel in the footer.
>
> Shouldn't the heading you've added by My Projects and left aligned?
>
> Agree the middle panel should be wider by default and the left
> panel narrower to accommodate that.
>
> Something like this mock up?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:54
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I was thinking it makes sense to have similar things in proximity.
> Both the search and the sort are to do with the workspace items,
> it makes sense to me to put these controls together.
>
> Also this is a consistency thing: some tabs have titles, some
> don’t. Either let’s give them all titles, or let’s lose the big
> header on the tabs altogether maybe: if it’s not serving any
> purpose, why use the space? Also with this, the headers create a
> division / barrier between the projects and the controls to edit /
> properties etc. Previously these controls were much more clearly
> associated with the list of projects in the workspace. Could we
> put those buttons in the header perhaps? It does make sense that
> they are more closely associated with the project list, as the
> projects are the things they control.
>
> By default the project details tab, the central one, doesn’t look
> very nice as it’s very narrow.
>
> This is what we have now, which I like a lot: it’s clean / FWS etc.
>
> And this is what we have in x3 which looks nice, but could still
> do with a few tweaks to make it really lovely:
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Ron Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:44
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I would leave the search box where it is but make it less wide and
> put the title to the left. It seems more inuititive to have the
> search at the top rather than the bottom.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
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> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Workspace Layout
>
> What do you think of the idea of moving the search box down next
> to the ‘Sort your files’ drop down, and then we can give all three
> tabs titles:
>
> Your Projects, Project Details, Project Templates
>
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