[Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout

Tom Reijnders reijnders at tor.nl
Fri Jul 17 11:35:47 BST 2015 

Look at dynamicResize in website_code/scripts/screen_display.js

Op 17-7-2015 om 12:14 schreef Ron Mitchell:
>
> While you're searching ;-) try to find where the extra slash is added 
> which breaks the bootstrap media links 
> https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits/issues/352
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:06
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This is where time just disappears for me trying to do this stuff, I 
> have to resort to searching for class names in all the files to find 
> references, and then try and unpick what’s doing what and all I want 
> to do is set three minimum widths and three initial widths. That 
> should be six lines of code, preferably in the same place, and it 
> should take two minutes to change. Here I am an hour later…
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Fay Cross
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:04
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I don't think anything's minified (but I also don't know my way around 
> the workspace stuff to advise where to change stuff either)
>
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>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] on behalf of Julian Tenney 
> [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 11:00
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Fair dos.
>
> I’m not sure whether the jquery layout stuff has source files, and 
> then a minified runtime file? I can find some setup info, but changing 
> anything doesn’t change anything.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:59
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure without looking. Busy with something more urgent right now 
> but can have a look later if you haven't found it by then.
>
> Want to test Fay's additions too but non-xerte stuff to finish first. :-(
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:50
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Do you know how to set the initial width of the panels?
>
> Can we apply a minimum width to prevent folk making it too narrow? 
> (less important)
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 10:36
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Aside from closing the 6 issues we currently have on github flagged as 
> v3 release personally I think the most important thing with this is 
> getting a panel of logos complete with links in the footer somewhere. 
> I don't think your solution of adding the OSI logo alongside the 
> Apereo logo top right is the right solution for 2 reasons:
>
> 1. The vast majority of organisations using Xerte that I know of (and 
> I'm sure Tom echos this) want their own logo either top right or top 
> left. We have a built-in solution for that but it means one or other 
> of the 'official' logos get removed.
>
> 2. Ideally I think we want each of the logos to also link off to the 
> relevant site pages.
>
> The CSS isn't right, especially the logos, but something like this?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 17 July 2015 09:16
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not sure authoring on phones is viable though? My Asus transformer has 
> 800 px width; the iPad 750, which ought to be plenty. Do we want to 
> progress looking at this before we release the code? I’m happy to do 
> the work, but find it a bit slow picking through the code / 
> implications for languages, and I’m a bit time limited over the next 
> few weeks.
>
> Perhaps make it a 3.1 thing and get concentrate on getting v3.0 out 
> the door
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 17:06
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> > How wide is portrait view on a tablet?<
>
> What tablet? ;-)
>
> Attached is a screenshot from my iPad - appears to be 1536px wide in 
> Portrait view. But I suspect the lowest common denominator is less 
> than that. e.g.
>
> http://www.websitedimensions.com/pixel/
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 16:01
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> This looks nicer I think (I haven’t managed to sort the search box 
> styles yet). Presumably we can fix a minimum width for the panel? 
> Things get screwy when it is smaller than about 540 pixels. How wide 
> is portrait view on a tablet?
>
> I know these are small issues compared to a lot of things we’ve worked 
> through lately, but for some users, the look and feel is really 
> important and sometimes it’s just a few small things that really make 
> the difference.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 15:38
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> Not wedded to the search box being at the top.
>
> Although I wondered about the How to, feedback and site links etc 
> being in an orange menu to the right of the Sort menu and then leaving 
> space for a centered logo panel in the footer.
>
> Shouldn't the heading you've added by My Projects and left aligned?
>
> Agree the middle panel should be wider by default and the left panel 
> narrower to accommodate that.
>
> Something like this mock up?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:54
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I was thinking it makes sense to have similar things in proximity. 
> Both the search and the sort are to do with the workspace items, it 
> makes sense to me to put these controls together.
>
> Also this is a consistency thing: some tabs have titles, some don’t. 
> Either let’s give them all titles, or let’s lose the big header on the 
> tabs altogether maybe: if it’s not serving any purpose, why use the 
> space? Also with this, the headers create a division / barrier between 
> the projects and the controls to edit / properties etc. Previously 
> these controls were much more clearly associated with the list of 
> projects in the workspace. Could we put those buttons in the header 
> perhaps? It does make sense that they are more closely associated with 
> the project list, as the projects are the things they control.
>
> By default the project details tab, the central one, doesn’t look very 
> nice as it’s very narrow.
>
> This is what we have now, which I like a lot: it’s clean / FWS etc.
>
> And this is what we have in x3 which looks nice, but could still do 
> with a few tweaks to make it really lovely:
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Ron 
> Mitchell
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:44
> *To:* 'For Xerte technical developers'
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Workspace Layout
>
> I would leave the search box where it is but make it less wide and put 
> the title to the left. It seems more inuititive to have the search at 
> the top rather than the bottom.
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> 
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of 
> *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 16 July 2015 14:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Workspace Layout
>
> What do you think of the idea of moving the search box down next to 
> the ‘Sort your files’ drop down, and then we can give all three tabs 
> titles:
>
> Your Projects, Project Details, Project Templates
>
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