[Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text

[Smith, John]

Hi Ron,

Yes a message might be the only way to really tackle the issue at present which is unfortunate.

There are several whitespace issues but they aren't all related to the new editor and it's going to be very hard if not impossible to deal with them all in a general way... a lot of it has to do with the fact that line breaks that worked in Flash need to be changed into <br> for html rendering, this breaks script and style blocks in text boxes which span more than one line and also means <table> blocks that span several lines end up intespersed with <br> which all get rendered after the </table> tag resulting is massive whitespace.... again, these can often be worked around but ends up making the LO hard to read within the editor...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 24 April 2015 12:51
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text

Hi John
yes I can reproduce that but obviously it's greatly exaggerated when all the
drop zones exceed the default height of the LO so require the scrolling.

If there isn't a fix to enable the draggable items to continue scrolling
with the mouse pointer I wonder whether a change of wording for the tooltips
might help e.g. if you start dragging and then continue scrolling even when
the draggable item stops it still works if you then click the desired drop
zone. The tooltip wording currently says drop zone for 'target name' I
wonder if it simply said 'drop here' whether that might help. Not perfect I
know but at the moment the only alternative seems to be keeping the item
heights as low as possible so that all targets appear without the need for
scrolling.
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 24 April 2015 11:29
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text

Hi,

I'm not sure that its the inclusion of the <p> and <div> tags that Katrien
is concerned about... I was more interpreting it as the fact that you can't
drag the boxes down to the lower dropzones because when the page scrolls the
dragged box doesn't and so you end up wit the dragged box and the cursor
separating, making it very hard to know where you are dropping...

I think that this is a problem with the jquery UI library though and it
looks like we are using an up to date version yet the bug still seems to
persist. Are either you Fay or Ron able to reproduce this or am I the only
one seeing it?

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A250, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
[Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk]
Sent: 23 April 2015 13:35
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text

The <p> tags is something that I wanted to look at before the new release.
It's the new editor that's putting them in, which fine, but I've noticed
other pages too where having them there messes up the layout (even when
there aren't unnecessary ones).  I was thinking of adding some css which
would do something like remove the top-margin from the first and
bottom-margin from the last <p> tags in each section.

In Katrien's example there are loads of unnecessary <br> & <div> tags on the
labels though - are these because of the new editor?

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 23 April 2015 13:08
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: problem with Interactivy matched text

Have tested this now and confirmed it's not due to the chosen theme.

It seems the height of the rows is determined by the greatest height of the
part 1 or part 2 sentences. e.g. if any of your sentences have multiple
lines of text or contain images which make the height larger than a single
line of text then all the target heights increase to accommodate the height
of the largest box. I guess all the targets/rows need to be the same height
otherwise it would be easy to see what goes where just by the different
heights of each target.

In the example Katrien has provided it looks like there are unecessary
<p></p> tags increasing the height of the largest box and also in the
instruction there's <p></p> tags and an image causing the draggable labels
to begin lower down the page than would be the case with just a single line
instruction.

I wonder whether the collapsible instruction feature Fay has implemented in
the media lesson page type might be an addition to improve this?

HTH
Ron


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