[Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

Thu Oct 2 11:10:00 BST 2014

OK, fair enough.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 02 October 2014 11:03
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

No, I haven't heard back from him. That is not the first time either. That's one of the reasons to go ahead with replacing it.

Second reason is, kcfinder is not working on ipads, and working awkward on other tablets.

While there are still issues with elfinder, it is workable.

Tom
Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> schreef op 2 oktober 2014 10:33:53 CEST:
OK, great. Did you hear anything back from the other developer? Just curious whether he would consider dual licensing, or whether he would consider donating the code under an agreement?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 01 October 2014 19:49
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

Julian,

I have replaced KCFinder with elFinder, which has a BSD license (not checked in yet, have a look on https://server.tor.nl/~tom/editor).

It has too many buttons on the toolbar now, so need to disable those before checking this in.

Tom
Julian Tenney schreef op 25-9-2014 12:17:
It will. There will be a release during incubation when we need to have all these ducks in a row. A date is a bit more tenuous – I’m hoping for Christmas – but that isn’t really that far away. At the ver y least we should aim to have a testable release by then.

I also think, having engaged with folk here around IP / legal matters, that we aren’t going to run into any traffic in that area, which is what I have been most worried about. But I won’t count my chickens…

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 25 September 2014 11:12
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

Hope you feel better soon John :)

The WP functionality should be too hard to replicate though?

I assume that the code clearance will tie to a new version / assume there is a target date?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hello all,

Sorry not been very active on here recently... Had my appendix removed on Friday after a few grumbling weeks but on the mend...

Re this code, that whole file is lifted from Wordpress so if we can't include any GPL  then it should be removed. There are numerous hook points throughout the PHP though that will have to be dealt with although it would be good to keep them and just test for the availability of the relevant function...

Although plugins have never really got past the theory stage, one area they have been useful for me has been debugging on a live system - I've always had a bit of an issue that we have to turn development mode on which causes problems on a live system but you can quickly create a plugin which either turns development mode on ONLY for a specific template id(s) or does stuff only on the LOs that you want it to... It can probably be used for a lot of stuff that we haven't thought of yet too, especially when we c ome to rewrite the workspace...

It would be relatively trivial to rewrite that file as it is just a pub/sub handler...

I'm not that fussed either way though... If its easier to just rip out all the code then feel free...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat L (pgogy)" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com<mailto:xerte at pgogywebstuff.com>> wrote:

I think large parts are copied from WordPress, he mentioned it in an email - so searching the archive would say

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
Did John write the code?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>] On Behalf Of Pat L (pgogy)
Sent: 24 September 2014 16:52

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

No, John added it in to duplicate the way WordPress does plugins, WordPress Plugin code completely separate

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl><mailto:reijnders at tor.nl<mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>>> wrote:
Pat should have the answer to that, and also whther we want to keep on supporting that. I assume it's introduced when he cerated the Wordpress plugin.

Tom
Julian Tenney schreef op 24-9-2014 15:25:
I can’t find a license in wp_plugins.php?

Did it come from wordpress? Wordpress is itself GPL, so presumably that’s what wp_plugins is.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 24 September 2014 12:16
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: IP Clearance

And wp_plugins.php
Julian Tenney schreef op 24-9-2014 12:59:
Guys,

I have started going through all the folders looking for licensing issues: basically I̵ 7;ve got a list of them, and am trying to identify whether each folder is problematic or not.

I’ll have further questions, but for now I’m just trying to tick off the easy ones.

Do you know if all the php / js in \website_code was written by us, mostly Pat I guess? Looking through, it all looks OK, just want to be sure here’s nothing lurking in there from 3rd parties. It would be a good folder to tick off.

Just for future reference if you’re thinking of integrating anything into the software,  and I think you all know this already, but we absolutely have to avoid any GPL / LGPL code. Happily, all the components / frameworks / fonts / etc in \modules are all licensed compatibly.

J

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