[Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

Wed Nov 19 10:31:22 GMT 2014

I would prefer them to not be visible initially too, I think it looks a bit daunting at the moment when every possible thing you might want to do on a page is there.

I think that they are too easy to overlook on the Flash version though - I know when I've advised people in the past (who are already familiar with Toolkits) that there is an optional property that can do what they're trying to do, they hadn't noticed they were there at all. That's why I wondered about there being something below the required properties - so you fill in the form top to bottom and then immediately below the last item is something that will show the 'what else can this page do?' stuff if they're interested.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 17 November 2014 16:03
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

My preference is to hide the optional properties, but if you open them, then perhaps they should remain open. It's just about keeping the interface really clean and not intimidating users; that might be possible by using a different method to display the optional properties rather than the big chunky buttons: I'm not sure what that is though.

I wish there was a really good set of flex-like controls for web native stuff.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 15 November 2014 09:22
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

I like this idea.

On the Optional parameters, I am not sure why you want t hide them. Most of the comments that we got really liked the fact that you could immediatley see what the optional parameters are. And, if you happen to have a smaller screen you can auto-colapse the panel. Just my 2 cents...
Smith, Bradley schreef op 14-11-2014 19:49:
With regard to the Insert Page dialog, I think the interface could use space more efficiently if it used breadcrumbs instead of nested menus, as in the mock-up screenshot below. The "Insert Page" breadcrumb would reset the menu on the left to show all of the top-level page types. This allows the dialogue to be resized once in a single div each time a submenu is selected, without the messiness of dynamic menus. It would also allow for an arbitrary number of submenus if having page sub(-sub-sub...)-types ever became desirable.

The source for the mock-up (which is just a static html+css, not an actual implementation in Xerte!) is here:

  https://gist.github.com/usernamenumber/ab4d4486430eb777cb42

Now excuse me, I need to go write "I will not say to myself 'I'll just throw together a quick mock-up, it won't take long', for that is a lie" on the blackboard 1000 times... :P

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-Brad

From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>
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Date: Thursday, November 13, 2014 at 4:30 AM
To: 'For Xerte technical developers' <xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>>
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

>"We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date."<

Absolutely! Happy to help too but very little time during November now.

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 13 November 2014 09:13
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

It would be good to have discussions here about the sort of thing we want to achieve, I don't see why we can't move on a lot of the 'design' work between us: this is the sort of thing this list is for!

This is where we are right now, and to start with it would be good to just try some ideas - it's pretty close to the old editor:

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Also there are some bits that don't work very gracefully, where might need to come up with a better way:

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Also, the next release doesn't need to have any University of Nottingham branding in it.

We might want to think about bringing the whole interface (workspace as well) up to date.

From:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, Bradley
Sent: 12 November 2014 19:21
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Design new editor

My html5/css skills are ok, and I might even be able to justify spending some work time on this, but it'll be hard to make guarantees. Given that there seem to be others in a similar position, could you just post a sketch (so to speak) of what problems you need solved to the list and/or in a GitHub issue so we can all discuss it?

-Brad

From: Inge Donkervoort 12Change <i.donkervoort at 12change.eu<mailto:i.donkervoort at 12change.eu>>
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Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 at 9:54 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Design new editor

Hi all,

As you know we are working hard on the new Xerte editor. We are looking for someone to help us with the design. If you like to help us and have html5 and css skills then please let us now. It's all voluntary work but the gratefulnes from the community will be your reward ;)

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