[Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Thu May 1 14:51:10 BST 2014 

Hi Tom,

Yes, definitely, no worries. I'm about to investigate a windows install with both the original code and this new code to see whether I can get it to run. Will update you.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders [reijnders at tor.nl]
Sent: 01 May 2014 14:46
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited

I will look into this, but I don't have much time at the moment. Perhaps
topnight. Otherwise, it'll have to be next week.

Tom

Smith, John schreef op 1-5-2014 15:38:
> Well. Preliminary testing looks good with my new code but i haven't tested on Windows yet - would be interested in getting Tom's take on all of this...
>
> I just added loads of videos via ftp (upload limit set to 7M on this server) and checked the memory limit and it is
>
> memory_limit    90M     90M
>
> and with each video being used on a page then i've just successfully downloaded a 316Mb archive zip without any problems (it took several minutes too so the script didn't timeout) and was able to play the videos contained within... and this is just a cheap Dreamhost shared server, nothing fancy...
>
> On to Windoze...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 01 May 2014 10:58
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> Hi John
> the problem is when I originally raised this issue on 8th April it coincided
> with discovering loads of these un-removed example_zipper files on the
> sandpit install. At that time I also mentioned the separate session issue as
> a reason I hadn't updated to a newer revision and I think you mentioned that
> you thought Tom had fixed this zipper issue in a later revision. So once
> we'd identified the cause of the session issue (or at least Julian's attempt
> at fixing his FF issue) I updated the sandpit code as well as other servers.
> Now I've been using the 2.1 branch for this rather than develop so I'm not
> sure if Tom's fix is in develop but not 2.1 but I think the code is the same
> at the moment.
>
> In short although I've been using a 62MB file from a project a user was
> unable to export, previously there were loads of these zipper files in loads
> of different user/project folders and there are probably quite a few again
> now prior to my changing the memory limit.
>
> I could try resetting the memory_limit back on my own server and test again
> but my previous tests with the 62MB file certainly weren't crashing the
> server. Let me know if you think its worth testing with larger files and the
> default 128MB limit or if your and David's later responses have ruled that
> out as being worthwhile?
>
> I know Tom said last night that he was going to revisit his fix for this so
> would be good to hear back from Tom once he's done that.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 01 May 2014 09:57
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Have been thinking about your issue and just wondering whether you might
> have inadvertently chosen the worst file size possible for the video with
> 128Mb memory available to PHP. Let me explain (and this is entirely
> hypothetical)...
>
> The zipper creates a blank object (<0.1Mb memory used) The library loads all
> the other files individually and zips them into the object (0Mb ->
> compressed size of all js/html is perhaps around 1-2Mb or under) The library
> then loads the mp4 (now it has the object = 2Mb and the video = 62Mb in
> memory) It adds it to the zip object but it's also still in memory (mp4
> doesn't compress at all so we have 2 + 62 + 62 =126Mb which is less than
> 128Mb) It then closes the connection to the mp4 and destroys the object
> (memory now = 64Mb for the zip)
>
> I'm wondering whether a 64 Mb or slightly bigger will cause you to be able
> to crash that server too. Is that something you could try?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
> Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
>
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 01 May 2014 09:09
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> Hi John
> I was just going to test your export code on a server where I don't have
> access to change php settings so the memory limit is fixed at 128MB. I know
> what David means that ideally we want cross platform code but as you say
> there are inevitably different solutions/restrictions for some e.g. no
> control over memory limit. In fact the upload limit on this particular
> shared server is set at the default 2MB so I had to upload the test 62MB mp4
> via ftp. However I'm now confused further because this is the same XOT code
> as the other servers I was using for testing so I expected the export to
> fail when testing before replacing the export code with yours and yet it
> didn't fail and I was able to download the zip which didn't contain any
> example_zipper files.
>
> I'm glad you're able to reproduce the issue but not sure how a server with
> 128MB memory limit is able to export ok without a change of code or memory
> limit :-(
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 01 May 2014 08:38
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: example_zipper issue revisited
>
> All i know Dave is that, with the commented code uncommented, my system
> couldn't download a 56Mb an 79Mb zip but with this code 79Mb came down no
> problem.
>
> We may have to use what we have access to on different systems. There may be
> a similar way to pipe the result into windows or we fall back to the old
> code and crank the memory requirements up yo 300Mb which not everyone can
> most likely do anyway...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> David Goodwin <david at palepurple.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> <snip>
> Uses the unix command zip and pipes the stream back into PHP in 8192 chunks
>
> <snip>
> Also, might not work on Windows...
>
> So therefore it's not worth using?
>
>
> Technically there is no benefit to doing the fread(....) over a
> fpassthru(...) fpassthru does something like 8192 chunks internally.
>
>
> David.
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