[Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Thu Sep 19 16:19:26 BST 2013

The first for me... I won't get the stuff I need to do in by this weekend...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:02 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Both... :-)
Op 19-9-2013 16:40, Julian Tenney schreef:
What works for you?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 19 September 2013 15:28
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

End of september to finish functionality and start testing or finish functionality say this weekend, and start testing with the aim to relase end of september?
Op 19-9-2013 15:44, Julian Tenney schreef:
OK.

Shall we aim for end of September?

How shall we do testing?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 19 September 2013 14:42
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Looks nice!

I also don't see any reason why not to have the logos, especially since they are configurable if you want!

Theming would be nice, although that theming for the LO's has a higher priority. And like John says, Theming is likely to improve the quality of the code.

Tom
Op 19-9-2013 15:29, Smith, John schreef:
I don't see any reason not to have UoN logos there... their IPR after all and if it's relatively easy to change then...

I agree theming would be good... I think we should aim for a very clean file and try to remove all inline styles and inline javascript where possible. Then it will be a case of just changing css. This would allow  for example similar invert and black-on-yellow modes to address Alistairs requirements without too much effort...

The main xenith engine file isn't quite as lean as it could be but at least the layout parts are pretty clean of code/style - I still have a few things to do in there then I'm done with that file for a while - happier now that it plays in IE6-10 quite well now (although there is still that compatibility mode issue)...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:18 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

No it was the HTML5 media viewer, a few other things. I've got some potential deigns to show you guys actually, see attached. I'm not 100% happy with any of them just yet, but I think the elements / colours are there.

Maybe we should do this as a theming thing, then people can choose?

I also wonder (quietly) whether we should have the UoN logos in there or not.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 19 September 2013 14:14
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Yes, what has Nikodem been working on? The workspace redesign?

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:10 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

That all sounds good, thanks. Let's let it roll a couple of week s then. The reason for updating our code here is so Nikodem's changes can go out, and it will just be easier to drop the whole file set over the top than check whether anything has changed in dependent files (though I don't think it has).

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 19 September 2013 14:08
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

Alistair is looking at it, few minor tweaks to get it ready for consumption... has a lot of model specific stuff (mainly class and id names used by specific models for colour changing purposes) in there though which I don't really want as it makes maintenance a nightmare...

What I have started though, that should help a lot with that is I've modularized xenith core and about 10 or so of the page models so that they can load at any time and they then augment objects/arrays in xenith as required by them - they are fully encapsulated in a closure so don't pollute global and this is the obvious place to put class/id names that are required for colour changer...

That will be for v2.2+ though - can't get the other models done before xmas I doubt as there are a few changes to the process... I think you'll like it though. I've managed to split xenith itself down into modules, grouping things like glossary, etc so that they everything to do with that is in the one file and it has it's own private and public vars...

For Crockford fans I've used 3 different, module patterns to achieve different augmentations to the new XENITH object... will write up in the wiki when I get them done...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:43 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

How long do you need?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 19 September 2013 09:38
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Toolkits 2.1

The colourswitcher button should go in... it's nearly ready...

There have been enough fixes I think to warrant a new release, if only to spur people to patch things like the previous youtube issue and the stripslashes problem with moodle integration...

But... there are a few things that don't seem to be working properly at present. Categories and Licences in management being the ones that immediately spring to mind... not much though...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:18 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Toolkits 2.1

We'd quite like to update our install to the latest files, so I thought maybe we should do a 2.1 and put all the more recent changes out there. It's been six months since the last build was made.

Do you see any problems with this?
Anyone got anything that would be good to include?

Might be a good github trial as well...

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