[Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace

Wed Oct 30 11:03:52 GMT 2013

Question on the thinking

I can see shared icons straight away, but if I don't know what shared is,
then knowing it isn't shared doesn't help?
Public I can see, so on and so forth

Perhaps we could make a case for a drop down next to "sort" to show

Public
Shared
RSS

Which would remove all the non-public and so on

This might be a little more useful than symbols?

Though I do like the symbols, but I prefer them as buttons.

AND

*retreats to cave*

Perhaps this is a case for having the panel below the workspace become a
properties panel light

So you could click on a project, and the panel appears for that project
with options for

Renaming
Public
RSS
Open

and so on?

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Julian Tenney <
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'll see what I can do...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 29 October 2013 22:32
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace
>
> Yes,
>
> As Pat pointed out css3 allows multiple background images but for greater
> support you can always layer x divs and then fill them appropriately...
>
> Current icons are 16x16 and putting symbols on them is nigh impossible...
> 12x12 or 10x10 will be unidentifiable with icons on i suspect...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
> I will play around and see if I can figure out a look and feel. I like the
> idea a lot, but I would like to see it implmented really nicely graphically.
>
> Are stacked icons posssible? Put a symbol in each corner (challenging, I
> know, with only 8x8px)?
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John [
> J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
> Sent: 29 October 2013 21:53
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace
>
> Hi Inge
>
> There is a little people icon in the image for 'shared with another user'.
> Haven't figured out how to cleanly detect if LO is shared with you... But
> yes it is on the cards...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> Inge Donkervoort 12Change <i.donkervoort at 12change.eu> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Katrien from Belgium has the suggestion that there could be also a symbol
> for share LO's?
> She also likes the symbols on eacht row and not only on the selected item.
>
> Bye,
> Inge
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> Op 29-10-2013 14:51, Pat @ Pgogy schreef:
> I agree, I felt like it was heading into user settings territory....
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
> and toggle off by default... ;-)
>
> Seriously though -  I really like the functionality John and would find it
> very useful personally - especially if the icons can actually link to those
> sections of properties at some point. I don't think the icons themselves
> can just be a toggle e.g. public/private because there are obviously more
> options to set than just on/off. But in a way that's the point - if all
> they do is give a basic idea of the properties for a given LO without
> providing more value than that then you still have to select the LO then
> select properties and I know lots of users including those responsible for
> supporting staff and students in their organisations that would say it's
> unecessary clutter. That's certainly not a criticism of what you've added
> John but a bit like moodle you only see all the edit icons when you turn
> editing on so the toggle would be the equivalent. The alternative but a
> much longer term discussion/wishlist might be default and user profile
> settings. Perhaps that's 3.2! ;-)
>
> HTH
> Ron
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 29 October 2013 12:10
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace
>
> OK, smaller icons and toggle...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:54 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace
>
> No, in my opinion you should just show them.
>
> Really, people are used to icons.
>
> If we need to accommodate people who would hate those icons, then Ron's
> proposal is best: provide a global toggle
>
> Tom
>
> "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> schreef:
> I was thinking of toggle buttons and of Ron's question about really long
> LO names and thought of having the selected LO expand to 2 rows and having
> the icons underneath and toggleable...
>
>
> It almost makes the initial driver pointless though since you need to
> select each LO to see the icons... perhaps a tick box or a show button that
> toggles or shows icons that then fade out again...
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:42 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Possible icons in Workspace
>
>
> The moodle off grey icons might make sense as they'll blend better with
> any theme?
>
>
> I think the icons make sense, but should they be toggle buttons?
>
>
> I could see a case that the interface could be tweaked a little - the
> properties panel isn't really properties anymore (it's more properties and
> do lots of important stuff).
>
>
> 2.2 makes sense, but I think the icons make the interface easier to use -
> would they confuse a new user - probably, but they might also demonstrate
> some of the features the system has which people have missed (or is that
> atypical techie talk)
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Julian Tenney <
> Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> As well as 'is shared, be good to see 'is a share' (i.e. I'm sharing
> someone else's project).
>
> Can we leave this until 2.2?
>
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> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Smith, John
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Possible icons in Workspace Hi all,
>
> So from my conversation with Pat, I have taken a look at the feasibility
> of adding icons to Workspace to show-at-a-glance certain statuses:
>
>   Private/Public
>   Flash vs Javascript
>   RSS syndicated
>   Shared with a collaborator
>   (there may be others we can do that i'm not aware of)
>
> I have rewritten the SQL query for Workspace to gather the required data
> and implemented the icons but as you can imagine Workspace soon gets
> cluttered (see image XOT_Icons_All). I have also been playing with the idea
> of only showing the images for the row that is selected
> (XOT_Icons_Selected) - but then I know you can select more than 1 row so
> not sure how to handle that...
>
> What do you think?  I'm looking for ideas...
>
> Regards,
>
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