[Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

Fri Oct 18 16:42:54 BST 2013

I'm thinking out loud but one possibility might be JISC or JISC Techdis especially as they do a lot of work with publishers and accessibility so that would also fit with the additional corporate focus. There's some overlap with other projects too. I'm sure there are options.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy
Sent: 18 October 2013 16:33
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

Can I just ask how the attendance costs would feed into future developments?

What organisation would receive the money and distribute it?

Sorry to be picky… but good governance and structures are pretty important IMO.

Mark

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On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:31, Ron Mitchell wrote:

Likewise I think if we made it known that some of the attendance cost would be contributing to new developments there are a lot of people who would support that.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy
Sent: 18 October 2013 16:17
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

Count me in on that one. If we could make sure there was a stream that wasn't university/academic/education focussed - I'm sure we could get a lot of takers from the corporate world. 

Mark

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On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 16:09, Pat @ Pgogy wrote:

I was mumbling yesterday to 2 elearning people from London Unis about a XOT conference

Organise one, charge 50 quid per head more than costs, 100 people come, quids in

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

We’ve discussed this before but you could probably make some money from merchandising; how much I don’t know but the opportunity is there… again though it’s dependent on the use of the trademark and the ownership – there doesn’t seem much point registering the trademark and then not doing anything with it…

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John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 2:55 PM

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

With the foundation stuff, we were thinking about whether the University should hand ownership off to it, rather than keep it, but unbeknown to me the University has registered a trademark against ‘Xerte’, to be managed in much the same way Moodle manage theirs. Ultimately the problem we came up against in the sustainability conversations was that no one seemed very keen to leave this job to pursue it.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy
Sent: 18 October 2013 14:39
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

Or another way of looking at it is: if things carry on just as they are; with a focus on institutions that will fund development, what is the viability of Xerte in the medium/long term?

BTW. You don't have to set up a Foundation. You could easily create a company for much less cost...

Mark

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On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 13:07, Julian Tenney wrote:

Probably depends on how ambitious we want to be. We are in a very good place right now, and we can just carry on as we are, but there is a limit to how far we can go, I think, when we all have day jobs.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
Sent: 18 October 2013 12:55
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

If I was playing with my MBA (no sniggering, I do genuinely have one) I would say we are at the "growth wall", which is a point at which SMEs decide to how expand (new markets, more staff etc. etc) 

It is inevitably the big risk they face (if you discount starting in the first place) and is when bad things happen.

It would seem logical that we all half agree some funding is required to go anywhere

So, where? 

Kickstarter? Indiegogo? Shuttleworth? Hewlett?

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

We considered setting up a foundation, but it fell over when we discovered it would cost £5k or £10k a year and would take quite a bit of work to do. It could be resurrected as a discussion though.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Berthelemy
Sent: 18 October 2013 11:48

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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: xerte.net

FYI. I did consider setting up a paid service for another open source project, but decided against it as the project had no formal entity through which I could feed back payments. 

If Xerte did have some sort of formal body it would give people confidence to start investing in it…

Mark

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On Friday, 18 October 2013 at 11:43, Ron Mitchell wrote:

Paid for services already exist but for education at least somewhat of a thankless task at least in terms labour v profitability! 

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