[Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Tue Oct 8 16:39:25 BST 2013

You can use font awesome without bootstrap if there are clashes?

Regarding the code showing in the tree and window title - perhaps a separate
title icon property in the wizard at some future point? I've just been
working on a moodle site and theme where the form field just has the icon
name and the rest must get appended via php etc.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:26
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Are we going to bump inot things if we add bootstrap to the Xerte styles?
That could be  showstopper for that font-awesome stuff. won't bootstrap
start overriding styles / tags etc?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:16
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

.except they don't all work!

Maybe I missed something from the library, or it needs setting up
differently. I'll have a look, 'cos they would be pretty handy.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:14
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

I tell you what is awesome, you have all the bootstrap components in xerte
now:

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:11
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

[adopts Partridge-esque tone]

"No, it's font-awesome!"

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:10
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Yes that is awesome.

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:04 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

BTW I like the way you can stack two or more icons together:
http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/examples/#stacked

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 15:58
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Just like the old days!

It's a good call. I've put the local copies in, and use them: so they'll
need keeping up to date. It means we have bootstrap in two places, so we
should look at a common place for shared stuff. I haven't touched the export
code, but suspect it isn't too much to add in the new folders; also I just
took the downloads and put them in there, I suspect we only need the
.min.css files.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 October 2013 15:50
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Crikey, you pose a question, go away, come back, and it's done! I should
pose more questions more often. ;-)

I can see John's point about local copies but It's great to have this even
if only online - should help to brighten up all those plain text pages at
the very least! Very easy to include the icons at different sizes too.

Cheers

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 14:45
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Crikey, give 'em an inch.

;-)

I've done that now. I haven't added them to the export code - I'm not too
familiar with that, so probably easier if Tom does it (it'll just be the two
font-awesome folder and bootstrap folder in the Xerte template and the
font-awesome folder in the site template (I'm not sure if this exports at
all?)

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 08 October 2013 14:04
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Shouldn't we include local copies so that offline LOs benefit too??

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 1:52 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Yeah, OK.  I just added the links to the CDN stylesheet to rloObject.htm in
modulkes/xerte/player_html5 and to play.php and preview.php for the
bootstrap template.

Thanks.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 08 October 2013 13:26
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Yeah I think a drop down for installed themes would be good. We already have
the ability to override styles on a per LO basis but not so easy to deal
with the button images that way. 

On a not completely un-related note anyone looked at including Font Awesome
for both the XOT template as well as Bootstrap? Indeed is it in the latter
already or is there an easy way to include it?
http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 08 October 2013 11:42
To: xerte at pgogywebstuff.com; For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Maybe a drop down for installed themes?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
Sent: 08 October 2013 10:41
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Do you think we should have a property page for look and feel?

I am thinking of the "hobbler" script I use for single page LOs as a handy
display short cut?

On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

We probably need to make it easy for people to design and apply themes. You
can override the stylesheet: someone here did this, which looks really nice,
but took a bit of work:

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge
Donkervoort 12Change
Sent: 08 October 2013 00:23

To: For Xerte technical developers

Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Editor

Really like to hear about the work that John did :)
People want to change the colours and buttons. I have to look into using the
stylesheet a bit more. Haven't have time for that.... 

Bye,
Inge

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Op 7-10-2013 16:03, Julian Tenney schreef: 

There is a desire to change the editor to one written in HTML5 and get rid
of the Flash one. I think John has got some progress with it, but it's quite
a bit of work.

Personally I think it would be very hard to do WYSIWYG and maintain the
flexibility of the authoring tool.

What do you mean by 'change the design'?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Inge
Donkervoort 12Change
Sent: 07 October 2013 14:59
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Editor

Hi,

I heard there are 'plans' for a another editor in Xerte/XOT (wysiwyg?). Does
anyone have information for me about that?  I ask this because it's the
number 1 question for people working with XOT. Number two is the possibility
to change the design ;)...

Bye,
Inge

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