[Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5

Thu Mar 28 09:11:52 GMT 2013

Personally I think we need manual choice as well as browser detection e.g.
even if browser detection is built in it should still be possible to share a
link to view via flash and a separate link to view via HTML 5

So there'd be 3 types of links then? One forcing to Flash, one forcing to
HTML5 and one deciding for you? Is that going to confuse people as to what
link they're sharing?  I agree you need to be able to make manual choice too
though.

I think this kind of depends on the default e.g. right now we obviously have
play.php for Flash and play_htm5.php for html 5 

If play.php detected for Flash player and if not found reverts to html 5
then perhaps only two links needed like we have now.

I guess if play.php becomes the html 5 view by default then the second link
could be play_flash.php which still reverts to html 5 if flash player not
found.

Would that work?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
Sent: 28 March 2013 08:52
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5

Thanks Ron

Should there be a separate HTML5 only export option?
That's what I assumed there would be but I suppose the files could just be
added into the existing export with an extra index page

Should this be a management option e.g. giving people control over what is
the default and what is the Ctrl + Click option?

I like that idea

Personally I think we need manual choice as well as browser detection e.g.
even if browser detection is built in it should still be possible to share a
link to view via flash and a separate link to view via HTML 5

So there'd be 3 types of links then? One forcing to Flash, one forcing to
HTML5 and one deciding for you? Is that going to confuse people as to what
link they're sharing?  I agree you need to be able to make manual choice too
though.

Thanks for files you sent - I'll have a look at them in a bit

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 27 March 2013 17:57
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: HTML5

Hi Fay

firstly on behalf of the whole community thanks for all your hard work on
all the HTML 5 conversions - fantastic stuff!

A few comments/thoughts inline below...

HTH

Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
Sent: 27 March 2013 17:17
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] HTML5

Hello all

As you should know the HTML5 work is nearly complete and there are only a
couple of page types for me to complete before we can release a new version
of Toolkits with the HTML5 interface as the default view.  I have a few
things that I could do with some help on before the release so if anyone can
give me a hand with them or just give your opinions it would be much
appreciated...

1.      Exporting HTML projects:
The files that would need to be in the zip would be more or less the same as
for the Flash version but using the common_html5 and models_html5 folders
instead of common/models.
Would the easiest way to do this be to include an additional index page e.g.
index_html5.htm

Should there be a separate HTML5 only export option?
HTML 5 export for vieing locally or importing into a VLE is certainly
something people have been asking for

2.      Abbreviated link:
Possibly something Ron can help with as I've noticed it's working on his
install.  Can abbreviated links be made to work e.g.
www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5_560 rather than using the full url?
(Apologies Pat, I think you partly answered this for me previously but I
can't find it)
I've attached a sample .htaccess with most of this included you will need to
replace /xerte/ with whatever your xot folder is which you can probably
check in your existing .htaccess and just add in the missing lines. However
at least some of the rss links need further work which I posted to the list
previously but no reply.
The htaccess.conf in the setup folder needs updating too but to be honest
I'm not sure how that works e.g. if it's updated during install but I don't
think it is.

3.      Play / Preview links:

a.      Links in project properties, preview button in workspace and preview
in wizard need to be updated to go to the HTML5 version.
Should this be a management option e.g. giving people control over what is
the default and what is the Ctrl + Click option?

b.      In the wizard should Ctrl-Click bring up the Flash version when
clicking normally is changed to HTML5?
Yes I think so but see response to a. above

c.      Do you think there needs to be some browser detection that decides
which version people see?  The problem I can see with this is that if we
start adding new features or pages to the HTML5 version then by sending them
to the Flash version instead they may miss out on some content.  Not many of
the page types in the HTML5 version actually use HTML5 tags if that makes
sense - probably just the handful where the canvas tag is used (textDrawing,
charts etc.) so there might not be many instances where there will be
problems if you're on an older browser anyway.
Personally I think we need manual choice as well as browser detection e.g.
even if browser detection is built in it should still be possible to share a
link to view via flash and a separate link to view via HTML 5

4.      Page models:

a.      John - is the flickr page finished?

b.      Johnathan - I've emailed you off list about a few queries I've got
with the connector pages, I hope this is ok - I didn't want to bother
everyone else with them

c.      SCORM - this isn't working at the moment but I can't quite remember
what's missing.  I'll email with more details of what help I might need when
I've looked back at it

Thanks

Fay

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