[Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules

Pat @ Pgogy xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Mon Jun 10 09:31:51 BST 2013 

Errrr, it is supposed to save without previewing.... Let me check

On 9 Jun 2013, at 21:31, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Meant to say, I've been using your Decision Tree and it's brilliant but there are 2 save buttons at the bottom and 1 works and 1 doesn't - in fact the one that doesn't ends up wiping the whole LO...
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> Not sure what it's purpose is supposed to be or if it's even supposed to be there but thought i'd let you know...
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> John Smith | Learning Technologist
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com]
> Sent: 09 June 2013 13:43
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> See new email :)
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> Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:48:29 +0100
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> [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> I still think the idea of an ‘App Store’ or more likely an ‘Extend’ area is a good one… the plugins could go in there too for example, as well as themes and the more that end users who don’t want to really get involved in the really technical stuff can still get involved means that the Community can still grow…
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> I think Data Visualisation is going to be very important in the future and Pat’s Simile Timeline creator will be fantastic.., already have plans for that for a few nursing based things… The DecisionTree is another one that might even have more potential, especially within areas where Scenario Based Learning is in use and also just to evaluate and focus learning where it’s is required…
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> So I’m really excited about these two extensions that Pat has produced and I’m going to start building some things soon with them…
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> Regards,
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> John Smith
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 11:23 AM
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> Especially if anyone could submit anything to the ‘app store’…
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> Maybe that’s a none-starter,
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 06 June 2013 11:10
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> Letting end users decide… now there’s a novel idea…
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> Never likely to happen here with our IT dept…
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> Regards,
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> 
> John Smith
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:52 AM
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> 
>> I think the App Store route makes more sense then
> For end users? Or for site administrators? It would be quite cool if end users could choose which templates were available. Not sure that would sit so easily with sysadmins though.
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 05 June 2013 08:27
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> 
> I think the App Store route makes more sense then
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> On 4 Jun 2013, at 16:44, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip?
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> You know the answer to that: we don’t currently have a formal process. My main concern is about stopping things geting messy, and to make sure things are as good as they can be before we include them. You can mix and match via embed content, but I know users would prefer to do everything in one place if they can. Not doubting any usefulness, or the benefits other developers will bring…
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 04 June 2013 16:16
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> It's sort of of the same problem though - if I write a page template what process does it go through to be approved in the zip?
> 
> You can mix and match using the embed content pane should you wish too.
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> My thoughts / goal with modularisation is it might bring in new developers who'll then help improve core.
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> Not fussed about being in the zip. Wrote these for work, and can mangle the php into anything. Just sharing because useful.
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> On 4 Jun 2013, at 15:01, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> I guess the app store / community site comes into its own when folk outside the core development group start building stuff. I haven’t seen your templates yet. Without seeing them I don’t know if they could be a page type within the main template? That would always be the best way of adding functionality, because as you know, if they are in different templates, people can’t mix and match them. That’s why interactive diagram, multiple perspectives are in the main template, not separate templates.
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> Whilst we are doing the development, we can review and include new stuff with each release. Perhaps the installer should set up which templates are available – defaults to ‘All’ and you can untick ones you don’t want.
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> Have you got examples of content built with your new templates online anywhere?
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 04 June 2013 13:44
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> There is a logic to taking a position. You could ask why site is in the zip, but not one of the others?
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> So say with Drupal, if a plugin is popular it is subsumed into the core code and becomes part of the install
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> If all plugins go into the zip, that is perhaps neater, but the alternative is to build some sort of app store
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> On 4 Jun 2013, at 09:16, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottinghamac.uk>> wrote:
> If they truly plug and play, do they need to be part of the zip?
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 03 June 2013 19:30
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: New Modules
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> Am not sure they make the released zip, would be good to have an idea about that.
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> Trying to work out the rest of the idea, basically it is some HTML, and then a form, then a series of responses?
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> The QR code itself seems spurious to the spec?
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> Good Morning everyone,
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> I’m looking forward to trying these out once they make it into the distributed zip file.
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> I’ld also like to propose a possible new module which would primarily aid interactivity in the classroom/lecture theatre. The basic idea would be to combine Ron’s QR Code stuff with a template enabling users to choose a response aim their phones at the associated QR Code and add their ‘vote’ or ‘comment’ to a text wall.
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> I could probably write it myself in perl, but that wouldn’t be terribly helpful to anyone else. Unfortunately it would be well beyond my current skills with php. My initial thought is that three QR Codes could be provided, e.g ‘Yes/Agree’, No/Disagree,Comment/Question.
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> The Template would present the viewer with some text and the three QR Codes. Users could click on one of the QR codes which would actually by a URL to a php script which updated a text wall. The Comment/Question option would additionally present the user with a form in which they could type some text on their device and then submit that. The Image for the QR Code could be also linked to the script via a conventional hyperlink, i.e. you’ld click on the QR code rather than use your phone.
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> There are a number of sites which enable you to generate QR Codes on the fly so this should not be too problematic, and by embedding a large random number into the URL for each instance you could differentiate between them.
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> This technique could probably be extended to other templates where it would be useful to solicit feedback from users, e.g. the ‘stimulating question’ type of template.
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: 30 May 2013 23:09
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> Hello,
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> https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-simile
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> and
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> https://github.com/patlockley/XOT-decisiontree
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> 2 new modules for XOT - should work fine - happy to take on feedback. Simile is quite complex, decision tree is very basic, but with some skinning could be quite powerful
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