[Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Thu Jul 11 21:01:03 BST 2013 

No hurry... I've not really looked at it since. Been kept busy with the Forum and list of bugs i've discovered over the past 2 months...

I think that's part of the reason for wanting a 2.1 release...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat @ Pgogy" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


Everything is a tonne of work, internationalisation took three weeks, but if its piece meal then things feel a bit mixed up.

There isn't really a framework / process for development. Make the API the base, then a thin core, and then plugins.

Even with plugins though - modules aren't plugins its all a bit mixed up.

If we are revisiting a page for x, we might as well for y

Swamped with self employment plans, will try Sunday.

On 10 Jul 2013, at 21:22, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> I think I had in mind for the API to be more of a Public API hence the levels of signing that are employed... and the security overhead hoops to jump through - have you installed it yet and tried it?
>
> There is so much ajax going on though that having them all funnelled through api endpoints would be kinda cool and we'd only need to check is_admin() or has a valid session depending on the destination route which would be as efficient as just now... a LOT of work though!!
>
> I take Ron's point seriously on board though regarding the auto update thing and the way lots of people people have probably "hacked" their own changes locally - this has been highlighted most buy RonM2's Knowledgeware problems recently and the fact that he's now stuck at 1.7... I think this is where the plugins will come into their own...
>
> I know it's quite easy to just hard code html things like the menus in management and properties etc but having all of these things done more flexibly might take a bit more coding but will help us in the long run I think... for example if we had an array holding the tab names, function names, other info etc then we could pass that through a plugin filter and simply add a few, or only in certain situations... such as adding the api button, a lot of functionality could be done in "core" plugins the way drupal, etc does it...
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy  [xerte at pgogywebstuff.com]
> Sent: 09 July 2013 20:10
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Version 2.1
>
> I would give 2.1 a miss as a number
>
> Reasoning
>
> A lot of the code is quite old and could do with a once over, spring clean
>
> When writing the API we could make all the Ajax end points into API end points
>
> MySQL is dying out in php 5.3 so bits of the install and the code will stop working
>
> Make management side easier
>
> Neaten up root, which is cluttered up now
>
> I think bundling things like site details into site options makes sense as a bigger number change
>
> Then we could have a more reliable framework for moving forward
>
> Plugins / API end points / themes - so developers can easily add in new things without worrying about core
>
> On 9 Jul 2013, at 13:53, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I think the community might be expecting .1 increments now… API will be done long before the HTML Wizard so it would be good to do incremental releases and we need to sort out the sitedetails vs site_options horizontal/vertical database thing and do a small release…
>
> If we wait until v3.0 then no one will update until then as there will have been no ‘BIG LAUNCH’ and instead of being 3 releases away (1.7-2.0) they will be further!!
>
> From memory we’ll have:
>
> Stuff nearly there:
> Plugins (soonish - hopefully)
> App Store/Extend (almost there if not already)
> API (soon)
>
> Longer terms stuff:
> HTML Wizard (3-6 months away at least)
> Theme (?? Dunno)
> Experience/Tin-Can API (6-12 months??)
>
> Plus we have a lot of bugfixes in v2.0 since release – people won’t update unless they think they need to… but perhaps Tom could organize this to automate v2.0.1 etc and possibly even v2.1-9
>
> Anyway… ramble over…
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:49 AM
> To: For Xerte technical developers (xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>)
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Version 2.1
>
> Best start  new thread on this topic: what and when for 2.1?
>
> With all the automated builds, it really helps – there isn’t so much of a need to push all the fixes into a release, so we could stick with 2.0 and think about 3.0, which would be:
>
>
> -          API
>
> -          HTML Wizard
>
> -          New theme / branding / look and feel (we’ve started looking at this)
>
> -          +?
>
> But there is a lot of work in there…
>
> Thoughts?
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