[Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)

Thu Jul 11 08:52:09 BST 2013

Yeah but those models don't change that often... Certainly not as often as the xml... With a timestamp you'd loss caching benefits across LOs and even pages within...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat @ Pgogy" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:

Adding a timestamp seems easier?

On 10 Jul 2013, at 23:29, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Yeah, if we have revision 1001 installed then we load all the models with model.html?r1001 .... the next time we load the model it comes from cache...
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> When we upgrade to 1030 then we load model.html?r1030 and we trigger a new download - saves telling people to flush the cache...
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> Regards,
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> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett [d_b_burnett at hotmail.com]
> Sent: 10 July 2013 23:27
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
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> Increment a querystring with a version #?
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>> From: J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:56:13 +0100
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
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>> MOVED TO XERTE-DEV
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>> Is there a better way to do this, like we do with the xml files... should add a timestamp to the ajax for the loading of the models files, to force a reload after x days? or can we do it using the version.text revision? Any update to code should overwrite that...
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>> It's one of those things with client-side processing that ultimately changes are going to end up being superseded by cached items for a period...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Smith | Learning Technologist
>> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University
>> Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
>> ________________________________________
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney [Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 22:05
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
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>> you're quite a big user, and you've been using various versions as t's evovled, who knows what is cached in there and not displaying the most recent file. I found it fixed a few teething troubles here after we upgraded,
>> ________________________________________
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught [Alistair.McNaught at HEAcademy.ac.uk]
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 18:08
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> That did the trick. Still seems odd though and not what you'd want to tell learners.
>> Generally though I recommend people to use Chrome with XOT because there are some great accessibility plugins like ChromeSpeak for text to speech, Hi Contrast for changing appearance etc. It gives you some of the "in your face" accessibility benefits the Flash version had as well s all the other benefits of being browser based.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:04
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> Can you clear your cache and try it again?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 15:02
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> I've got Chrome Version 22.0.1229.94 and get a momentary flash of a page appearing before it completely blanks
>>
>> However I've now tried opening another tab in Chrome and bizarrely there's a blank LO in one tab that flashed then went white but a working one in another tab - though not all the data is being shown, for example in 12 and 14 I'm getting images and voices but not text. Slide 5 I'm only getting the voice.
>>
>> A
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:48
>> To: Xerte discussion list
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> I can replicate the problems in IE.
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>> Chrome is fine though?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:42
>> To: ian.hall at eastdurham.ac.uk
>> Cc: xerte at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Xerte] Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> http://xerte.eastdurham.ac.uk/play.php?template_id=71
>>
>> Hi Ian and all
>> There are definitely some cross browser issues on the LO link you provided (above)
>>
>> FireFox v 13.0.1
>> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else.
>>
>> Opera 12.1.5
>> Every page works well - videos, interactivities and everything else.
>>
>> IE v10
>> Slide 5 (clickable map) didn't work
>> Slide 9 to 14 and slide 24 had voices only - no images or text showing.
>> The videos all worked.
>>
>> Google Chrome
>> Blank white screen - couldn't get anything to show.
>>
>> As I understand it FireFox and Opera are the most standards compliant browsers which might explain why they work so well. Not sure what the issues are with IE and Chrome though - unfortunately they are probably the most popular browsers for many.
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Hall, Ian
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 14:00
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We were presenting a CPD event on Xerte to college staff yesterday. Two You-tube videos embedded within the HTML 5 presentation appeared blank similarly an interactive map with hotspots added. When we switched the document to Flash everything was as normal (we lost a little formatting on one page).
>>
>> We use IE 9 at college.
>>
>> Last night I played the HTML 5 Learning Object within Chrome and it worked fine.
>>
>> Can anyone offer any solutions as we are looking to add an "Induction" Learning Object to our VLE in September to support the student induction programme?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ian
>> Ian Hall
>> Course Manager & Lecturer, Level 2 Diploma Animal Studies
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 11:18
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> Would it be possible to find from the college which browser / version they have? It would be interesting to find out - especially if you can't replicate it at home.
>>
>> A
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 09:38
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> HI
>> Many thanks everyone
>>
>> Will try with some other browsers next time I am in the college, it was the very first page which was a straight forward image/text page [Advanced Media Image]with no additional HTML or otherscript.
>> It opens fine on my ipad ditto open my home computer on several browsers so it must be something to do with computer setting at the college I was at.... but unless I can identify what the problem is am going to need to use Flash for demos elsewhere which is not ideal. Creating two versions is not really ideal either although is one option.
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of XERTEFORTEACHERS automatic digest system
>> Sent: 10 July 2013 00:01
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 8 Jul 2013 to 9 Jul 2013 (#2013-71)
>>
>> There are 4 messages totaling 272 lines in this issue.
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>> Topics of the day:
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>> 1. XERTEFORTEACHERS query (3)
>> 2. XERTEFORTEACHERS Digest - 5 Jul 2013 to 8 Jul 2013 (#2013-70)
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>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:04:53 +0000
>> From: Alistair McNaught <Alistair.McNaught at HEACADEMY.AC.UK>
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes.
>> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute!
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance
>> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> Hi
>> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home.
>>
>> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed.
>>
>> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Barbara
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>> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:18:56 +0000
>> From: Bardell Jason <jason.bardell at KENT.FIRE-UK.ORG>
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> Hi Barbara
>>
>> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn’t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that LO today. Good luck with the embedded page, hope you get it sorted.
>>
>> Jason Bardell | Kent Fire & Rescue Service
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Alistair McNaught
>> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:05
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> I've experienced this on a few occasions with the Chrome browser but bizarrely it almost always works if I refresh after a few minutes.
>> The only other thing that can cause problems is if you add bits of code in the text field - I was doing a demo page to show what Maths formulae look like and sound like to a blind person but the code I cut and pasted into the text field got misinterpreted by Xerte as code to execute!
>>
>> Alistair
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Barbara Nance
>> Sent: 05 July 2013 17:46
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> Hi
>> Has any one had the same issue with Xerte HTML5 version - having decided to use it instead of the Flash option (you can not just switch between the two, as the images layout goes all over the place) and went to demo at a local college. I had not used the URL or embed link at home.
>>
>> However when using either the URL or Embed code, to show the activity, while the first screen showed on the screen initially it did so very briefly and then presented a white screen and no object. Has any one come-across this already and apologies if this has already been discussed.
>>
>> I have not tried it on my ipad/iphaone as yet
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Barbara
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>> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:59:49 +0100
>> From: Ron Mitchell <ronm at MITCHELLMEDIA.CO.UK>
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> Barbara
>> Without a URL it's difficult to help/advise.
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: A list to facilitate and support teachers using Xerte Online Toolkits [mailto:XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Bardell Jason
>> Sent: 09 July 2013 09:19
>> To: XERTEFORTEACHERS at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: XERTEFORTEACHERS query
>>
>> Hi Barbara
>>
>> We had something similar, it seems to be around the embedded page. Ours went black and we were unable to navigate past this page. It turns out the embedded code we used from YouTube needed cleaning up and we had to change page type to YouTube Video page. I have created a LO in 1.8 but when I toggle to HTML 5 in 2.0 the embedded webpage doesn’t display correctly (only header section visible), which reminds me I need to play with that L

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