[Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?

Pat @ Pgogy xerte at pgogywebstuff.com
Fri Jul 5 08:33:34 BST 2013 

Auto update wouldn't need to update everything. Most of the changes would be in website code and modules

You should be able to drop those over the top?

On 4 Jul 2013, at 15:55, "Ron Mitchell" <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> This is a can of works because I'm not sure how any such manifest would take
> care of local tweaks and customisations. It's a regular challenge for me
> upgrading installations e.g. I often update from svn, export to a local
> folder, create a copy of that exported folder and remove certain files and
> folders before uploading to the server e.g. I often remove the following
> before uploading:
> 
> error_logs
> import
> setup
> USER-FILES
> auth_config.php
> Library/Xerte/Authentication/Static.php
> modules/xerte/parent_templates/Nottingham/common/styles.css
> modules/xerte/templates/Nottingham/data.xml
> and in some cases
> website_code/images
> website_code/styles
> 
> A 'clean upgrade' is relatively easy as long as you know what files and
> folders to leave in place including backing up directories and database
> first.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 03 July 2013 22:31
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?
> 
> Hmmm... I know what your saying but perhaps not as easy to orchestrate when
> in installed in server root as when installed in a sub-folder that can be
> switched...
> 
> I'm sure it can be done in other ways though involving manifests and
> tracking/backing-up changed/added/deleted files...
> 
> This might be where Tom's script for building packages from svn could create
> a usable manifest of changes between Revisions and uswest that to build a
> sub-version...
> 
> I'll look at how the major players (wordpress/drupal/moodle/joomla) do it
> and feed back to the list...
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
> 
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
> 
> 
> 
> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> when i weighed up how to upgrade our install, I wanted to be able to make a
> clean install, and then migrate the user data into it. Then I was sure I was
> running a clean 2.0. There were quite a lot of changed files, and
> structures, so installing over the top would have left a lot of litter, and
> we already had quite a lot left over from 1.7 - 1.8 - 1.9 upgrades, which
> were all over the top, with a bit of tweaking. Technically it was tricky
> because we were trying to run two installs sharing one install's settings,
> so paths didn't work, for example - so we had to take a plunge and switch it
> all over - we had established the main things were working though. I think
> it would be great if we could devise a process that went along that 'clean
> install but exissting data' road.
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
> [J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk]
> Sent: 03 July 2013 20:08
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Auto updater? Backup? Restore?
> 
> Yeah Tom and its great. I use it often...
> 
> How easy was it to setup? Can a similar thing be done so that we get
> semi-regular releases with the next release being incremental from the
> previous? And could a manifest of changes be created (in xml say) that would
> list the added, deleted unchanged files?
> 
> Would automating these things potentially break peoples installs? I want to
> make it easy to setup and patch often but not so easy to shut down someone's
> server... We could do a kind of rollback i suppose...
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
> 
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
> 
> 
> 
> Tom Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> There is an automatic build of an update .zip with all the patches since the
> release. That is far as we got.
> 
> Tom
> 
> Op 3-7-2013 20:09, Smith, John schreef:
>> Has this every been discussed or considered?
>> 
>> We've people coming on the forum still using v1.7 - should we now build in
> an auto updater to make updates easy and even more frequent, such as v2.0.1,
> v2.0.2 etc? Especially since we've been patching a few things lately that
> are bound to catch other people out...
>> 
>> If we did then there's lots to consider but does the benefits outweigh the
> risks?
>> 
>> Should we also build a backup option that will zip everything up, backup
> database and send a download link when complete? That then leads on to a
> restore from backup?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John Smith
>> Learning Technologist
>> School of Health and Life Sciences
>> 
>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I might on Friday, but time to write code is hard to find at the 
>> minute
>> 
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk 
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, 
>> John
>> Sent: 03 July 2013 16:37
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
>> Bootstrap
>> 
>> I'll look at it if I get a chance.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> John Smith
>> Learning Technologist
>> School of Health & Life Sciences
>> Glasgow Caledonian University
>> 
>> From: 
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
>> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
>> On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:34 PM
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
>> Bootstrap
>> 
>> I thought so. Bit busy to test the moment.
>> 
>> If they want to do more than trivial changes, the best thing will be to
> look at application.js, and the custom stylesheet in the template itself.
>> 
>> From: 
>> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
>> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
>> On Behalf Of Smith, John
>> Sent: 03 July 2013 15:20
>> To: 
>> xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.
>> uk>
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Stylesheet/Styles optional properties in 
>> Bootstrap
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> Hi Julian,
>> 
>> Are these wired up yet? I couldn't get anything that I put into these 
>> two fields to appear in my resulting LO source. Someone in the Forum 
>> was asking about changing the look.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> John Smith
>> Learning Technologist
>> School of Health & Life Sciences
>> Glasgow Caledonian University
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