[Xerte-dev] Re: RE carousel stuff

[Julian Tenney]

What I wondered about was building a generic 'thing' that took children (think nestedPage). Then you could choose the rendering style: tabs, pills, buttons, carousel, accordion, there might be others, because ultimately, what they all are is <div>s of content, and you could then add items (graphics, text, videos etc) to those.

If you look at all the docs on the bootstrap site you'll see all the things that are in there, and there's handy html to copy and paste.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 25 February 2013 21:01
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] RE carousel stuff

I'm not familiar enough with it yet to know if it would be viable to build this into the same template and still keep it fws but whether it would be viable as part of the same template or as a separate template I am confident it would be of interest for a number of reasons.

If it were part of the same template I think there would be a need for an option to hide the current header, footer and side links to show just the carousel as well as an option to show the carousel beneath the header. If it needed to be a separate carousel template or could be created as part of the current template I could see carousels also being embedded in LO's via the embed content page as well as LO's being embedded in carousel pages if that were possible or at the very least screenshots linking to lo's. A bit like we've discussed for the homepage of the community site.

Will have to find some time to explore what's possible by pasting markup.
Cheers
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 25 February 2013 09:32
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

It's all in there, I haven't played around with the carousel yet - maybe next on my list then?

There's a challenge / tension in this - I don't want to go rushing into building a lot of templates and making things too specific just yet, there's a danger that in trying to build in authoring support for all these things we end up building something that isn't FWS.

You should be able to paste the markup into a text icon though, and try things out?

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 22 February 2013 17:52
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Hi Julian
is the Bootstrap carousel stuff part of what you've included or plan to include?
I could see a whole raft of interest from currently non-xerte users if there was an easy way to create that sort of thing e.g. for Moodle homepages/course pages etc.
Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 21 February 2013 15:51
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

I'm quite excited about javascript at the moment, because with the new 'site' template you can write HTML directly into the text elements, to create stuff, in this case a button, but it could be a <canvas> and then write javascript to do stuff with it (see screenshots)

So that makes it a very simple template for non-techs to use to build sites out of text / images / video / sounds; but also very powerful for programmers to do the stuff they want to do. I'm just working on doing scripts via src= so you can include cdn libraries, there's probably tons of other ideas around this as well, but I'm quite excited by what it brings.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 21 February 2013 15:33
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

I can see it taking on some of the stuff we'd have previously done in flash: so, for example, interactive graphs of functions, where you can change the parameters using sliders to see the impact on the graph, or other interactive elements. We have  quite a few things like that,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 21 February 2013 15:07
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

createJS is coming along nicely - would love to know what to do with it though...

I suppose we could create a wizard that allowed you to upload a media object (picture/audio/video/other), give it a name and then attach a script which is sent to the player and processed... that would be neat...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:45 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

I've been thinking about doing some stuff with popcorn as well, the other libraries of interest are the createJS set which look quite cool,

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 21 February 2013 14:44
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Hi Ron,

Wasn't aware of Popcorn before - looks good, will have to give it a try.

As for the videos, it should be possible to add a check for different video types but I'll wait to catch up with Fay when she returns. Fay shared a page with me a while ago that had multiple audio and video formats and there were considerable problems getting them to play in all the browsers so maybe that has to be explored and we might need to have more than just mp4 and flv types, based on the supported browsers list... same goes for audio - we could actually build this into the xenith code and detect the browser and try the recommended video extensions. There's no file_exists() command in js though so to test for existence would require an ajax request which could delay the video appearing...

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:41 PM
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: [Xerte-dev] what's the plan re video for pages like synched video and the plain video page? Also Popcorn example...

Hi all
a quick question about this... I always advise people to use streaming services for video wherever possible and with the HTML 5 playback it's obviously much more flexible now regarding what can be used and in which page type which is great. However there are some occasions where it's justified to upload a small video direct to an LO especially to use the synched video page functionality but even just the plain video page too. For Flash playback obviously it's still an flv that needs to be uploaded but what's the current plan for HTML 5? I know there's been all sorts of previous discussion about player licensing and codecs etc but has anything been decided?

Is there perhaps a solution to check for an mp4 in the HTML 5 model with the same name as the .flv and if it exists use that instead of the .flv via html 5?

I know Fay isn't around until next week now but posting this now while I have time.

Also perhaps relevant I'm not sure if you've seen or used Popcorn Maker https://popcorn.webmaker.org/ but that provides a quick way of adding all sorts of synched events to video's and works well via the embed content page e.g. http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_html5_53

Cheers
Ron


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