[Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page

Wed Feb 20 15:37:00 GMT 2013

Hi John/all
a few quick questions about the latest dialogue page...

Is the Nottingham installation up-to-date with svn?
The reason I ask is because I've just been testing some options for a
Techdis project and noticed my dialogue example works via Flash but not via
HTML 5. So I tested the 560 example on the Notts site and my own site which
has the latest code from svn.

this works
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/toolkits/play_html5.php?template_id=560&page=41

but this doesn't
http://mitchellmedia.co.uk/xot/play_html5.php?template_id=20&page=42

and I doubt there's any difference apart from the latest code.

Flash version works but you'll have to navigate to page 42 because it looks
like the page link isn't working now either :-(

Cheers
Ron

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 14 February 2013 09:22
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page

Yeah im pretty sure your code already handles case. I also added in a few
trims so that extra spaces were ignored... that should be ok right?

Will add in the display of all correct answers i think as it won't 'break'
any functionality...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

It probably makes sense to show all correct answers.  Unless the possible
answers could be things like London or LONDON or London - but I imagine it's
the code that ignores the case rather than expecting the person who creates
the question to enter possible answers like that.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 14 February 2013 09:06
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page

No worries, it was a relatively easy fix...

I didn't realise that either...

One potential issue though is that on x incorrect answers it gives the first
possible correct answer, .split(",")[0] like the flash version does... Do
you think this is ok or should it show all possible correct answers? 1 or 2
or 3 for example?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

Thanks for looking at this John - I didn't add it to the html version as I
didn't know you could do that in the Flash version!

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 13 February 2013 21:55
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page

Hi Tom,

Give the updated dialog.html file from the SVN a try. It now tries all comma
delimited answers like the Flash version. And will be easy to add a line to
take a different delimeter from the xml file if present.

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow
Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA
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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
[reijnders at tor.nl]
Sent: 13 February 2013 20:59
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page

Say you ask how many kg there are in 2500g. Type in the correct answer in
the answer field as 2,5 (floating point in Dutch). That answer is not
accepted if entered by the student in the flash version (xerte or xot).
2 is, and 5 as well. HTML5 version only accepts 2,5 as the correct answer
(which is what I want, but breaks previous behaviour.

By adding an optional delimiter that will only be used by the page if it
set, you can solve this issue.

I don't propose to change the comma in to a semi-colon, because that will
break previous behaviour as well.

Op 13-2-2013 21:33, Smith, John schreef:
> Is this in Xerte or in toolkits?
>
> I'm trying to reproduce and not really able to in XOT.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith | Learning Technologist
> Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | 
> Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA 
> ________________________________________
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dave Burnett 
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> Sent: 13 February 2013 20:28
> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Answer delimiter in dialog page
>
>> by say a semi-colon.
> Is there any way to find out if a semi-colon would end up in a conflict in
some other localization?
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:21:00 +0100
>> From: reijnders at tor.nl
>> To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Answer delimiter in dialog page
>>
>> The answer in the flash version of the dialog is a ',' delimited 
>> string of possible answers. I didn't know that at first, and 
>> wondering why the string 2,5 ( the Dutch notation of the floating 
>> point number 2.5, we use a decimal comma) wasn't working. So it turns 
>> out that the comma is used to limit correct answers, so Xerte interprets
2,5 as "either 2 or 5".
>>
>> I've got two problems at the moment.
>>
>> 1. HTML 5 behaves differently, it doesn't use the comma as a 
>> delimiter (and I think it should, or some LO's will break)
>>
>> 2. Do you mind if I introduce an optional delimiter to be able to 
>> replace the comma, by say a semi-colon.
>>
>>
>> Tom
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