[Xerte-dev] Re: FW: selected template access

Furr A.D. A.D.Furr at southampton.ac.uk
Tue Feb 12 18:20:21 GMT 2013 

Also, would be nice (like WP) to be able to zip up a template file folder, then upload via the admin interface i.e. no direct access to files on the server required.

Apologies if this can already be done and I've missed it...
I'd be happy to work on this, but would need some guidance as to your working practices/version control etc.
Alex


Dr Alex Furr
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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 12 February 2013 18:12
To: xerte-dev at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: selected template access

Ah ok... Then my question should be... Would the admin/properties stuff fit in there also and be pulled in based on whatever template is being applied...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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"Pat @ Pgogy" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:


Yeah it's ok - not sounding grumpy I guess our email subjects don't really apply that well.

At present you can drop a folder into modules, log into management and click update. That'll install it. So it is wordpress and Drupal like - no svn required.

Will make some videos later on I think.

Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality

On 12 Feb 2013, at 17:46, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk> wrote:

> Me too...
>
> All i was meaning was would it not be great to have the wizard stuff, presentation stuff (bootstrap), .info, admin stuff (Rons code from today and more to come i expect, plus any sql or other required files all in the same folder and automatically "found" and "installable" like a drupal or wordpress module. Process still seems too techy for average user especially when svn etc is required and overwriting each time you update seems likely to increase chance of data loss...
>
> Just my thoughts coming in recently...
>
> Regards
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health and Life Sciences
>
> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>
>
>
> "Pat @ Pgogy" <xerte at pgogywebstuff.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am confused as to how I am having the same conversation on two threads?
>
> Are we not talking about this yesterday? Or am I lost
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of web things of 
> a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Feb 2013, at 17:16, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> I know there’s no store and perhaps I don’t mean store, more just a 
> repository of shared templates – as others make different ones etc…
>
> Just a suggestion that might make these things easier to manage going 
> forward – but it’s you cave ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
> On Behalf Of Pat @ Pgogy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:13 PM
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: selected template access
>
> There is no store, but have a look in the modules folder for dot info 
> files - I think what your describing exists
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com Makers of web things of 
> a fair to middling quality
>
> On 12 Feb 2013, at 17:10, "Smith, John" <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
> No I just mean that if someone wanted to make this available in their system they download a package and unpack it to a particular location. The package holds everything that the content type needs including all the addmin pages, the sql statements, etc and the .info that management.php needs.
>
> Then they simply go to management.php and enable it…
>
> A bit of work but it could then make that part of the system very 
> modular like we seem to be heading towards anyway… you could even add 
> templates etc from management.php automatically from a list of 
> available ones like a store…
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
> On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:06 PM
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: selected template access
>
> I'm not sure John.
> I guess most of the time that would be redundant because it's the author view of properties of an LO but I suspect your asking for when it's a shared project. Not sure if creator ID get's changed when changed by someone other than creator or if the modifier ID get's stored elsewhere and tracks modifications.
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
> On Behalf Of Smith, John
> Sent: 12 February 2013 16:38
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: FW: selected template access
>
> Oh and is it possible to show “…was created on 2013-02-11 by XXXXX” and similar for the modified line?
>
> Regards,
>
> John Smith
> Learning Technologist
> School of Health & Life Sciences
> Glasgow Caledonian University
>
> From: 
> xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at list
> s.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] 
> On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 4:23 PM
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] FW: selected template access
>
>
> Hi all
> I've been testing Julian's new site stuff and wanted to test a way of 
> changing the links displayed in properties when viewing properties 
> with a site LO selected. I have this working locally after adding the 
> additional links to url_library.php and then using a case statement to 
> check for project name in properties_library.php
>
> However I don't want to risk the wrath of the cave! ;-) Is there a 
> better/elegant/more future proof way to do this?
>
> In properties_library.php I've added a switch checking for template name and if it's 'site' show just the play_site link but if it's not site by default show the flash and html 5 links that we see now. The links obviously come from url_library.php. Here's the relevant code in site properties_library.php:
>
> $query_name_response = mysql_query($query_for_template_name);
>
>        $row_name = mysql_fetch_array($query_name_response);
>
>                              switch($row_name['template_name']){
>
>                                             case "site":
>                                             echo "<p><a target=\"new\" href='" . $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . url_return("play_site", $_POST['template_id']) . "'>" . $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . url_return("play_site", $_POST['template_id']) . "</a></p>";
>                                                                           
> break;
>
>                                             default:
>
>                                             echo "<p>" . 
> PROPERTIES_LIBRARY_PROJECT_LINK . "</p>";
>
>        echo "<p><a target=\"new\" href='" . 
> $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . url_return("play", 
> $_POST['template_id']) . "'>" . $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . 
> url_return("play", $_POST['template_id']) . "</a></p>";
>
>                              echo "<p>" . 
> PROPERTIES_LIBRARY_PROJECT_HTML5_LINK . "</p>";
>
>                              echo "<p><a target=\"new\" href='" . 
> $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . url_return("play_html5", 
> $_POST['template_id']) . "'>" . $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url . 
> url_return("play_html5", $_POST['template_id']) . "</a></p>";
>
>                              $temp_string = 
> get_template_screen_size($row_name['template_name'], 
> $row_name['template_framework']);
>
>        $temp_array = explode("~",$temp_string);
>
>        echo "<br><br><p>" . PROPERTIES_LIBRARY_PROJECT_IFRAME . 
> "</p><form><textarea rows='3' cols='40' 
> onfocus='this.select()'><iframe src='"  . 
> $xerte_toolkits_site->site_url .  url_return("play", 
> $_POST['template_id']) .  "' width='" . $temp_array[0] . "' height='" 
> . $temp_array[1] . "' frameborder=\"0\" style=\"float:left; 
> position:relative; top:0px; left:0px; 
> z-index:0;\"></></iframe></textarea></form>";
>
>                                                                           break;
>                              }}}
>
> and here's what a site template and other/Notts template shows:
>
> <image001.jpg><image002.jpg>
>
> I think I can hear rumblings from the cave already :-(
>
> Ron
>
> From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 14:16
> To: Ron Mitchell
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
>> Do you want me to have a look at displaying the correct play link in properties? Also .htaccess additions?
>
> BY all means. There is no hurry, though. Now we have the temaplte working I toolkits we can i) decide how far we want to take it; ii) sort all this other stuff out.
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 13:19
> To: 'Ron Mitchell'; 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> That worked...
>
> changed name to site
> parent_templates/site/site.rlt
>
> created a new project
>
> preview_site and play_site both work.
>
> Do you want me to have a look at displaying the correct play link in properties? Also .htaccess additions?
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 13:13
> To: 'Ron Mitchell'; 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> Tried that but no joy.
> Renamed in the db as bootstrap and then changed /parent_templates/site to parent_templates/bootstrap and now it works.
>
> Probably better though to find out why it wouldn't work via parent_templates/site/site.rlt oh just thinking perhaps I needed to create a new project after that change...
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 13:04
> To: 'Ron Mitchell'; 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> Looks like the code uses the name from the originaltemplatedetails table in the db. Changes that to site and then it looks for /xot19/modules/xerte/parent_templates/site/site.rlt any reason not to rename bootstrap.rlt to site.rlt?
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 12:58
> To: 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> Turned on debugging... something in the code still looking for the bootstrap folder?
>
> Warning: 
> file_get_contents(/xot19/modules/xerte/parent_templates/bootstrap/boot
> strap.rlt)
>
> Don't think it's cache.
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 12:50
> To: 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> I wouldn't do it in basic.sql although if you don't want it available 
> to all remove the * Just set who it's available to via management.php
>
> There's a slight issue possibly caused by the renaming...
>
> Have tested on two different installs - I can create a new project 
> based on the template but clicking insert doesn't do anything? It 
> worked when it was called Bootstrap! ;-)
>
> From: Julian Tenney [mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 11:11
> To: Ron Mitchell
> Subject: RE: selected template access
>
> In basic.sql, instead of ‘*’ for the access field?
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 11:11
> To: 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: selected template access
>
> it's username comma username
> e.g. ronm,rmitchell
>
> From: Ron Mitchell [mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 10:52
> To: 'Julian Tenney'
> Subject: RE: Bootstrap
>
> BTW Pat didn't answer your question about enabling for specific users - looks like it's username.
> Not sure what the delimiter is but I guess either , ; or space - testing that now...
>
>
>
>
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