[Xerte-dev] Re: GitHub User Names

Mon Aug 5 16:46:35 BST 2013

ronm123

I had a previous account I think but can't find details.

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 05 August 2013 15:36
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: GitHub User Names

Got it.

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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of David Goodwin
Sent: 05 August 2013 15:34
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: GitHub User Names

On 5 Aug 2013, at 15:26, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>
wrote:

To add you as collaborators, I need your github usernames or emails please.
Then I'll add you as collaborators.

If I do anything, i'll be as : palepurple

thanks,

David.

From: Tenney Julian 
Sent: 05 August 2013 14:18
To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
Subject: RE: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

/root

  /src

  /build

  /test

Is that it?

Also, I probably have a load of newbie-ish questions for github: first one:
how do you guys commit to it?

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Sent: 05 August 2013 14:02
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

This is what I was saying about top level structure. the actual code should
perhaps have been nested inside a src folder (rather than the root) and then
we can have docs/ tests /build files etc outside of that and they don't get
installed to everyone's machines.

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 1:49 PM
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

 <https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits>
https://github.com/thexerteproject/xerteonlinetoolkits

I haven't added anything from the Xerte repo yet. Do you want all of it? Or
just the source for the Flash bits still used in toolkits?

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 05 August 2013 13:37
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

I'll set up the GItHub repo.

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 05 August 2013 13:36
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

So the first step is get the Xot code on GitHub... and integrate with the
Xerte tree and close down googlecode

Op 5-8-2013 14:33, Julian Tenney schreef:

So we can do it later. I think the key thing will be start making tickets
for everything we do. Trac might do more than we need just now, but I reckon
best to take the simplest solution and see if it works rather than add a
load of stuff just because we can,

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 05 August 2013 13:24
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

Ok. 

Trac can be intergrated with GitHub, but I don't know about the other way
around...

Op 5-8-2013 14:15, Julian Tenney schreef:

Tell you what then, let's see how we get on with github and the issue
tracker there, and see what we think,

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: 05 August 2013 12:52
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Discussion regarding Github/Scrum/Trac/etc

Julian wondered ( in the previous thread):

Do you think github does enough with tickets for us to manage a SCRUM like
workflow?

Honestly, I don't know. I don't mind installing trac, just to be able to
play with it, and github, and figure this out before we make a definite
choice.

Op 5-8-2013 12:56, Smith, John schreef:

Yes, I think combining would be a good step since both wizards are
intertwined. we also have a shedload of duplicate code.

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

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mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:33 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT

I also would like us to combine the source trees of toolkits and xerte,
and/or make xot leading....

Ehmm, and I'll wait a bit for installing trac then? It lloks like going to
github and using as much as we can of github is the most sensible thing to
do.

Op 5-8-2013 12:21, Smith, John schreef:

We should really start a new thread for this discussion...

That "Improve this doc" allows you to Fork->Change-> Submit Pull Request

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Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT

Yes, public is fine for us. I'll set it up later, then we can hook Trac up
to it. I've got a bit to learn about how the two will work together...

We are looking to standardise development processes here across a few
developers groups that all do things differently, and I'd like our project
to inform the choices we make: my idea, in  nutshell, is git + Trac + SCRUM,

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Sent: 05 August 2013 10:48

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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT

Public means that they are publicly accessible...

>From my understanding, anyone can Fork the repository and make their own
local copy and make changes - they then submit a pull request and if we like
it we can pull their changes back into the main repo... This is where we
benefit from the community...

Regards,

John Smith

Learning Technologist

School of Health & Life Sciences

Glasgow Caledonian University

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Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 10:31 AM

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Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT

To git (i.e. local to trac on the community server)? or to github?

Difference, as far as I can tell, is that you can host public git

repositories for free, and private ones cost money. It's not entirely

clear to me what 'public' means. Publically accessible, like googlecode,

or that anyone can commit. I think that last 'feature' is undesirable,

and honestly I can't believe that's the case, but haven't had the time

to make sure what it is.

I'll start setting up trac.

Op 5-8-2013 11:19, Julian Tenney schreef:

> OK, let's go for it. And move the code over to GitHub?

> 

> -----Original Message-----

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> Subject: [Xerte] Re: Import an Exported Xerte File into XOT

> 

> I was waiting for you to decide where to set it up... :-)

> I don't mind setting it up on the community server at all.

> 

> Op 5-8-2013 10:47, Julian Tenney schreef:

>> This is something that would be good to log on Trac or similar: Tom, did
you think any more about setting Trac up?

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