[Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
Tom Reijnders
reijnders at tor.nl
Mon Apr 15 10:54:12 BST 2013
Op 15-4-2013 11:26, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Tom, this is absolutely brilliant, thank you so much for all the work
> you've put into this, I'm knocked out.
>
> Do you think we should show the whole URL for the alternative player
> in the Project tab?
>
Don't know. I dodn't change it yet, but honestly I think we should leave
that out completely rather then showing it.
>
> It always has the html5 stub -- should it offer the flash version if
> html5 is selected?
>
Yes, if we decide to keep the link to the alternative player in there,
absolutely.
> Should we be consistent in the language used: the option you tick is
> 'JavaScript (aka HTML5)', later you refer to HTML 5. I'm thinking that
> this is martian to some people... also, maybe some explanation, along
> the lines of
>
> HTML5: Compatible with all devices. Unless you need to deploy to
> Flash, use this version.
>
> Flash: Not compatible with iPads, iPhones and some Android tablets
> and phones. This version is being phased out.
>
> Or similar?
>
Agree, but then we should take the time to check it everywhere, and I
didn't do that yet.
>
> The iFrame code isn't quite large enough in firefox when you embed...
>
Yes, I noticed that as well. I'll check.
>
> I'll pipe up with anything else I find,
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> Reijnders
> *Sent:* 15 April 2013 09:55
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> That's a good one. Don't know by heart. Let me check.
>
> Op 15-4-2013 10:43, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Is the site template (here we are again with a name nightmare) get
> setup, or do I need to tweak basic.sql?
>
> [we must be able to think of a good name for the site template...]
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of
> *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 15 April 2013 09:40
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> No. The changes are already in basic.sql as well.
>
> Op 15-4-2013 10:36, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> If I do a clean xampp install, do I then need to run upgrade.php?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On Behalf
> Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 22:31
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Everything has just been committed. This is a fairly large
> commit (758). Don't forget to execute upgrade.php!!
>
> - Changed play.php (root) and modules/xerte/play.php and preview
> - Make play_html5.php (root) and preview_html5.php (root)
> redirect to new play
> - Make use of the same template files as export does for the
> play and preview
> - Get rid of difference between rloObject.js used for play and
> used for export
> - Only one location for MainPreloader.swf and xmlEngine.swf
> (for play and export, export used to copy it from a different
> location)
> - Modified wizard to call preview.php with 'engine=other' when
> Ctr+Play is clicked
> - Make peer.php use the same templates as play and preview and
> implement for javascript engine as well
> - Move site to its own module dir
> - Changed basic.sql
> - updates upgrade.php
>
>
>
> Op 12-4-2013 17:04, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> Some questions, before I commit,
>
> 1. Julian, do you already have a different name for 'site'
> or shall I commit site for the moment?
> 2. Do we have consensus over the engine name? html5?
> javascript? xenith?
>
> Now I have 'html5' in the GUI, but 'javascript' in the
> code, because I think that is better w.r.t. flash.
>
> The major reason I ask is that if we want to create the
> play_html5_560 play_flash_560 (not sure that's a good
> idea, I prefer that people have to put in a bit more
> effort to choose an engine different than the author
> wanted, so play_560?engine=html5)
>
> Still even if we leave it at the engine=.... what will we
> call the engines?
>
> I prefer flash/javascript
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> Op 12-4-2013 16:48, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Oh, OK, sorry I was thinking you wanted to add XML as
> an option to the runtime dropdown. I don't think
> that's the right place for it, but I might have
> misunderstood,
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] *On
> Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 14:19
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> Well the tab is there for everyone, the only
> difference is the URL changes from
>
> Xml_560 to
>
> Play_xml_560
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 13:49, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Getting xml out. I think that's what you mean,
> anyway? I think that's something for developers to
> get at, rather than end users to get confused about,
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 12:58
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> The first or second bit
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 11:37, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> This sounds like a rabbit hole for now,
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 11:03
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and htaccess
>
> The play URL is now a sort of API
>
> So rather than
>
> play.php?template_id=1&method=flash
>
> You could have
>
> play.php?template_id=1&method=XML
>
> Which just returns the XML
>
> So you cold retire the XML page from the root
> folder (over time)
>
> Now where this could get interesting is you
> could make an XML remote method to change the
> file locations and host a single engine at
> site x, and dynamically bring in content that
> way. A sort of xpert shop window
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling quality
>
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 10:08, Julian Tenney
> <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> Is that something end users would need to
> see, or is this tech stuff for an API call?
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Pat @ Pgogy
> *Sent:* 12 April 2013 08:22
> *To:* For Xerte technical developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re: Modules and
> htaccess
>
> At the moment XML is a link option for XOT
> files, but all it does is return the XML.
>
> As we now have different methods for
> displaying content for a module, XML could
> be one of those?
>
> Pgogy Webstuff - http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to middling
> quality
>
>
> On 12 Apr 2013, at 07:32, Tom Reijnders
> <reijnders at tor.nl
> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>
> Ehmmm... could you be a bit more
> specific? Last time I checked I still
> wasn't a mind reader.... :-)
>
> Op 12-4-2013 0:28, Pat @ Pgogy schreef:
>
> Tom,
>
> Thoughts on making XML into a play
> option?
>
> Pgogy Webstuff -
> http://www.pgogywebstuff.com
>
> Makers of web things of a fair to
> middling quality
>
>
> On 11 Apr 2013, at 21:52, Tom
> Reijnders <reijnders at tor.nl
> <mailto:reijnders at tor.nl>> wrote:
>
> Yes definitely. Added function
> upgrade_4()
>
> Tom
>
> Op 11-4-2013 15:42, Ron
> Mitchell schreef:
>
> Was the correct upgrade
> definitely in the patch?
>
> If it was my applying of
> the patch didn't work
> because that's not in the
> patched or exported code
> yet it is in basic.sql
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 14:33
> *To:* For Xerte technical
> developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re:
> Modules and htaccess
>
> Strange.
>
> Upgrade should give you an
> extra column on
> templatedetails called
> extra_flags.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron Mitchell
> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>
> schreef:
>
> Cheers got it!
>
> I'm not sure if anyone
> else has tried this yet
> but not quite working for
> me...
>
> 1. Applied patch to local
> copy of svn code
>
> 2. Exported patched version
>
> 3. Dropped over a
> localhost test install
>
> I can see new options in
> the properties panel e.g.
> what is the default engine
> to use for this project
> with Javascript (a.k.a.
> HTML5) ticked
>
> But I can't untick that or
> tick the flash option
>
> When following the flash
> and html5 links I get an
> empty wondow
>
> and when trying to create
> a new LO I get an empty
> window with failed to
> create new template
>
> I ran upgrade.php but
> there doesn't seem to be
> anything new in there?
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Julian Tenney
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 13:10
> *To:* For Xerte technical
> developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re:
> Modules and htaccess
>
> I've just sent it on...
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 12:29
> *To:* For Xerte technical
> developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re:
> Modules and htaccess
>
> Didn't want to send It to
> the list . Julian has it.
>
> Ron Mitchell
> <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk
> <mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>>
> schreef:
>
> Happy to test and feedback
> but where do I get the
> patch? 752 looks like
> Fay's update.
>
> Ron
>
> *From:*xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> <mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk]
> *On Behalf Of *Tom Reijnders
> *Sent:* 11 April 2013 11:08
> *To:* For Xerte technical
> developers
> *Subject:* [Xerte-dev] Re:
> Modules and htaccess
>
> I am off-line the rest of
> the day. I'll send the
> patch to Julian.
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:51, Tom
> Reijnders schreef:
>
> As an addition:
>
> Now you can just use
> play.php&template_id=4
> (or play_4). It will
> show :
> 1. if the
> template_frame=xerte
> in the engine set by
> the user
> 2. if the
> template_frame is site
> using
> modules/site/play.php
>
> Also, you can use
> play.php&template_id=4&engine=flash
> or
> play.php&template_id=4&engine=javascript
> to force a specific
> engine.
>
> Some is true for preview.
>
> You can also use
> engine=other (this is
> used by the wizard
> when Ctlr+Play is pressed)
>
> I have to do the same
> for peer.php, but
> first would like some
> feedback ;-)
>
> Tom
>
> Op 11-4-2013 11:38,
> Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> Almost finished.
>
> I didn't change
> anything yet to
> modularize the
> properties page
>
> - Changed play.php
> (root) and
> modules/xerte/play.php
> and preview
> - Made
> play_html5.php
> (root) redirect to
> new play
> - Make use of the
> same template
> files as export
> does for the play
> and preview
> - Make wizard
> toggle the engine
> on Ctrl-click
> - Move site to its
> own module dir
>
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