[Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking

Tue Apr 9 11:31:58 BST 2013

Regarding the htaccess issue.... Could be, especially for html5  
export. I'll check.

Citeren Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>:

> Hi Tom
> I'll try to test further at some point especially to verify the  
> completion status.
>
> I possibly found another/related issue but need to test further.  
> However I'll mention now in case it's something you're aware of...
>
> I have two different installations on the same server both using  
> static authentication. On one your latest export code works but on  
> the other it doesn't whereas it does work with the previous export  
> code in place. I'm wondering if this is because your latest export  
> code requires changes/additions to the .htaccess code? I need to  
> find time to test further but that's the main difference between the  
> two installations e.g. one has Apache set to true and the other (the  
> one that works) has Apache set to false.
>
> As I say I'll test further and report back because there are other  
> issues I've found in testing although not necessarily related to  
> your commits.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk  
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom  
> Reijnders
> Sent: 09 April 2013 10:55
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> Thanks for testing! The Scorm 2004 should say 'completed' if all  
> pages were visited.
>
> In Scorm2004 the copmpletion status is separated from the Success  
> status. So in 2004 you can have completed as Completion Status and  
> 'failed' as success status. The moodle score book doesn't handle  
> that situation very good.
>
> And I want the commenst in Scorm 1.2 separated with new lines, but  
> haven't found a working linebreak character yet.
>
> Tom
>
>
> Citeren Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Tom
>> just a quick note to say I tested the 1.2 and 2004 export options
>> earlier today and imported as scorm into a Moodle 2.2.1
>>
>> Both seemed to work well! This was a simple 5 page test LO with a quiz
>> added at the end just to test that functionality.
>>
>> In Moodle viewing the results of a student viewing the LO and
>> completing the quiz the  view of interactions (pages) works best via
>> Scorm 2004 as each page result is showed in a separate row whereas
>> with 1.2 it's all shown under 1 row of cmi.comments but as you say
>> still more info than tracked previously.
>>
>> The only odd thing I noticed from my tests so far is that under
>> general data 1.2 Status showed as passed whereas 2004 showed status as
>> incomplete. Not sure if that's an error or not but why would that
>> differ between 1.2 and 2004?
>>
>> HTH
>> Ron
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom
>> Reijnders
>> Sent: 08 April 2013 10:08
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: SCORM tracking
>>
>> It makes sense for quizzes, but not for some of the other page types.
>>
>> Also, you can make this as complicated as you want, but in the end, it
>> has to be intuitive to the teacher/lerarning speciaist who creates the
>> LO.
>>
>> I can imagine that we add an optional weight parameter to all
>> interactions, then you could even create 'exercise quizzes' inside an
>> LO.
>>
>> So, summarizing, for the first release, I am not too keen to add all
>> kinds of bells and whistles. In my opinion it is a lot simpler to use,
>> than it was before, and it tracks a lot more data (not even sure at he
>> moment if that's a blessing).
>>
>> The way I implemented though gives you MUCH opportunities to play with
>> the plugin structure you created.  The html5 and the flash rlm's use a
>> javascript API to do the tracking, which at the moment is pretty
>> straightforward.  The actual tracking is done in separate javascript
>> classes. With the plug-ins, you can imagine building tracking classes
>> targeted at a very specific LMS.
>>
>> I will write op some documentation on this hopefully, before R2-Day...
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Op 8-4-2013 10:14, Smith, John schreef:
>>> Could we have the total result being a running total also as an
>>> option? Im hoping to be able to do an LO where they user does several
>>> sections and then end of section quizzes so need overall score rather
>>> than average score...
>>>
>>> Anyone tested the score in Blackboard? I can do that at this end when
>>> back to work tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> John Smith
>>> Learning Technologist
>>> School of Health and Life Sciences
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung Galaxy SII
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, good stuff,
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom
>>> Reijnders
>>> Sent: 05 April 2013 14:40
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] SCORM tracking
>>>
>>> I just committed the second stage of SCORM tracking work
>>>
>>> - quiz tracking is enabled again, but it doesn't look at/ need the
>>> optional parameters at all. At the moment the tracking is enabled
>>> when a scorm package is exported. Also, you now can have two quizes
>>> (quizzes?) in a LO. The total result will be the weighted average.
>>>
>>> I want to get rid of the quiz parameters dealing with scorm and
>>> replace the quiz specific optional scorm tracking parameters with
>>> optional LO scorm parameters:
>>>    - Do not track at all
>>>    - Do minimal tracking, ie. only final score
>>>    - Do full tracking with times spent in all pages, scores on
>>> individual questions, etc.
>>>
>>> Mind you, this is still work in progress, and I am testing in all
>>> kinds of scorm environments at the moment.
>>>
>>> Primary goall: robustness.
>>>
>>> Another goal is to be able to use a LO from XOT as a SCORM LO, i.e.
>>>
>>> When you have xot and moodle installed next to each other (with
>>> moodle integration), create a scorm manifest that uses the LO from
>>> XOT, without export. Much easier to maintain, but there are some
>>> gotchas there.  To be continued.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
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