[Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT

[Pat Lockley]

Lets go build a roadmap then - I have an account, but can't see a
wiki. I don't want to give Tom and Inge a load of work

The new modules are very much "apps", I have been thinking about how
we could make more integration options for XOT, but the key thing is
architecture to support stuff - and architecture needs to be built in.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> This is why persevering with the connectors is worthwhile. We are aiming for a modular world, where developers can easily plug in whatever they want to extend the tools. That means we have to trust people to do the right thing, so people will build things that don't alway work very well, and they will sometimes not be so easy to use. But it is good that they are able to, and the connectors are a good lab rat for the plug / play thing. My main concern with them is that they work as well as possible. So far, getting them to work at all has meant a lot of work on the engine / wizard side of things, we need to remove that somehow, or make it easier to extend. HTML5 / javascript will allow this - I think it's much easier in Fay's code to be able to interact with the world, than it is in an .rlo being parsed by the engine.
>
> I'd love to see an 'app store' for components for toolkits
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT
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> Allow people to do what they want. Simple.
>
> On 29 Oct 2012, at 20:35, Dave Burnett <d_b_burnett at hotmail.com<mailto:d_b_burnett at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>Page connectors could be the same - just support the addition of them, and let them work in their own way
>
> Which is what I was getting at it the "app store" bespoke version.
> I'm sort of confused as to why some here are so adamant about including page connectors with a base install.
> We're not trying to take them away.
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:20:12 +0000
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> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: [Xerte] Re: plain text connector page problem in XOT
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>
>
> What we must avoid is a situation where people try and build content and then give up because it just doesn't work quite right, and have then essentially wasted their time. This is an important principle for toolkits.
>
> This....
>
> Then maybe the connector pages should be withdrawn from the XOT release until we have a common approach to the pages and resolved the navigation options.
>
> And this are two sides of the same coin
>
> People need to be able to know their contributions are worthwhile else they won't contribute. Part of 1.9 is making it more modular, but also 1.9 is all me so far and for all I know it'll get thrown away.
>
> But we fix this with a road map and modularisation. You want to mess the site up, go ahead. But out of the box is this.
>
> As a side point, the XOT Wordpress plugin gets about 100 downloads a month and I support that all by myself.
>
> I.e with modularisation we can decentralise code and the project. Every Drupal install uses views but it is optional. Page connectors could be the same - just support the addition of them, and let them work in their own way
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