[Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
Julian Tenney
Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk
Mon Oct 29 14:33:38 GMT 2012
There was some useful (really) work from OSSWatch recently on Rogo (another application we develop here) around their openness rating: I looked at the things they had used to judge it, and applied them to Toolkits, and made a list of things we should do to make our project more 'open': the list is below. That includes things like roadmap, some other useful things as well. I want to work through this list and address as much of it as possible, I think that will drive some content to the community site. We already score quite well (about 60), though OSS watch would say we should try and score more than 80, and I think in general the things they point at are good sensible things we should do. OSSwatch are coming here tomorrow, so I'll probably add to this,
Xerte Rogo
Legal 65.52 75
Standards 68 73
Knowledge 46.3 13
Governance 56 16
Market 86.67 38
Openness Rating 59.65 ?
Average 64.5 43
Legal
Document project dependencies and audit license compatibility.
Consider and make explicit options for sub-licensing.
Clarify re-distribution of entire project under GPL3
Make licensing explicit. Add license headers to all source files.
Standards
Minimise reliance on closed proprietary standards. Flash player
Use standards ratified by standards bodies?
Use Project Management methodology, and have regular, predictable releases.
Identify and document a standards policy for the project.
Knowledge
Documentation: developer, installer, user.
Design documents
Define and Implement QA Process
Project roadmap
Machine readable meta-data?
Project Chat / IRC?
Make all decisions in a public environment
Provide alternative sources of the knowledge / archives / include in the SVN
Governance
Clear Leadership. Define the roles in the project and make them clear.
Make the structure and policies of the project clear: decision making process.
Document how to get involved in the project and behavioural guidelines for contributors.
Consider elected leadership?
Ensure contributors have rights to contribute.
Consistent, predictable release cycle and development iterations.
Provide translations of all the project documentation
Implement consistent development process, and how to contribute code.
Market
Increase number of organisations with rights to modify the code.
Increase number of 'paid for' contributors.
-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 29 October 2012 14:24
To: For Xerte technical developers
Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
I propose two wiki pages
1 for API
2 for roadmap
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Let's use that then. I might need some guidance around the community
> website stuff - I don't know what's there, or where to find it,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom
> Reijnders
> Sent: 29 October 2012 14:22
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>
> Yes
>
> Op 29-10-2012 15:18, Julian Tenney schreef:
>> Is there a wiki?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>> Lockley
>> Sent: 29 October 2012 14:13
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>>
>> are we allowed to? *semi serious question*
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>> OK!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>> Lockley
>>> Sent: 29 October 2012 14:12
>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>>>
>>> or we could use the community website
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>> Well, what things would it address: we should make a list somewhere
>>>> (titanpad?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>> Lockley
>>>> Sent: 29 October 2012 14:09
>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>>>>
>>>> Happy to give it a whirl - could I ask for a roadmap in return :)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>> Agree. Tend to think you'd be an excellent person to write it!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat
>>>>> Lockley
>>>>> Sent: 29 October 2012 13:58
>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>>>>>
>>>>> I think there is a big case for an API to be honest - allows a lot
>>>>> of stuff to happen
>>>>>
>>>>> but that's just me
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think many people have done anything, but accessing the raw data easily is really useful if you want to start messing with it, putting into other formats etc, so if it's not on the properties tab, as long as it's available (and you can find out how to get it) that's OK. I found it very useful to build the mobile stuff we played around with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you might have a sequence of API-like calls, i.e.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://server.com/toolkits/getInfo_1234
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //returns info to tell you what you can expect and in what format, or what params you can use in your request for the data.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can XML *always* be output as JSON and vice versa? I suppose you
>>>>>> can always crunch what you get for the format you need, but
>>>>>> better to get what you need straight away,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Pat Lockley
>>>>>> Sent: 29 October 2012 13:25
>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: 1.9 properties
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, would JSON export be more useful / as useful as XML export?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Pat Lockley <patrick.lockley at googlemail.com<mailto:patrick.lockley at googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> WordPress has a theme supports function, so I am thinking of
>>>>>>> having a list to indicate the tabs per template, or something
>>>>>>> similar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk<mailto:ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 1, 2 & 3
>>>>>>>> Personally I don't think it's a necessity that the same tabs
>>>>>>>> exist for all templates but I suspect it's easier to just
>>>>>>>> display a message like 'This property is not relevant to this template'
>>>>>>>> than it is to change the code to dynamically change tabs based on the template in use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>>> Increase the properties window size and display 'This property
>>>>>>>> is not relevant to this template' for Xerte templates?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just my quick thoughts...
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Pat Lockley
>>>>>>>> Sent: 29 October 2012 12:48
>>>>>>>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] 1.9 properties
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the properties panel there are several options which are
>>>>>>>> sort of xerte specific - XML and media and quota for example.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of the new templates aren't XML, so XML makes no sense -
>>>>>>>> and the media and quota code is very xerte specific.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would people think
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) all off these options should exist for all templates?
>>>>>>>> 2) should tabs exist even if the functionality doesn't?
>>>>>>>> 3) what sort of message should it say
>>>>>>>> 4) what if I have scope for an extra tab?
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