[Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Smith, John J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk
Wed Nov 28 13:39:48 GMT 2012 

Yeah I had started looking at them but they are nowhere near ready yet. I think we're going to have to just keep them for the next release. I wanted to get textDrawing done because I had done a lot of work on it and wanted it out there for testing but it took a lot longer than expected. I might be able to get the chart one in but it's not looking realistic just now due to time... will see after tonight!!


Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University


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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:25 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

I think the zip is being made on Friday... Julian?
I'm not in next week and am only working two days in December so I've got very little time to do stuff for the new release anyway.

On the spreadsheet you have put that you are also looking at the audioSlideshow and imageViewer pages - are these in a state to release?  No problem if they're not

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 28 November 2012 13:16
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

So is Friday the absolute deadline? I have 'almost' completed the chart model but I don't think it will be ready for Friday and would perhaps be rushed and untested anyway now so perhaps I should concentrate on the textDrawing one getting complete and any bugs that you want to pass to me?

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Fay Cross
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:02 PM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Thanks

I don't think so, I've been going through the page types we have completed and fixing any little bugs I find.  There are bound to be some I don't find or have time to fix before Friday but they are generally small things.

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 28 November 2012 12:57
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Ok. I did toy with that idea before so leave it with me and i'll do something and get it in for testing, will try to get it done tonight...

Any other serious issues that you are finding?

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:


I think it would probably be best if an error message did appear on screen somewhere.  Maybe just below the image or at the beginning of the text field.  Something along the lines of 'Your browser does not fully support this page type'?

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From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 28 November 2012 12:45
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Ah i didn't know about the console.log issue in IE... Since IE falls back to html4 just now and thus 11 of the 15 types don't work then the 11 non working ones simply write a message to the console since i didn't really know how to handle that. We can take them all out but then should a message be placed in the text area or somewhere else to say that a particular type hasn't been handled? Or should we just gracefully ignore the non working ones...

Regards

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health and Life Sciences

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Fay Cross <Fay.Cross at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:


Yep, I have IE8 and it was all ok when I was just testing on the ltdev.nottingham site but as soon as I including it in toolkits properly and ran in xampp or Nottingham's Toolkits install a lot of the css messed up in IE. I will try and look at a way around forcing to IE8 at some point but I just needed a quick fix initially.


For the textDrawing problem in IE, is there a console.log message in the code? If I forget to remove them from a model the page doesn't work in IE (unless the developer window's open).


-----Original Message-----
From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 26 November 2012 16:30
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Hi John
yes I definitely had cleared cache but just tried again and still no joy. So then I had another look at your screenshot and noticed you had the console running so I turned on developer tools and switched to the console too - now bizarrely I'm seeing page 2!

So it seems fine now although as you say defaulting to IE8 compatibility. I think Fay put that line in the top of play_html5.php because of issues with compatibility mode in IE9.

Cheers
Ron

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 26 November 2012 15:49
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Hi Ron,

Are you sure you cleared the cache? I can see page 2 in IE but it does a poor job in this instance since it falls back to the available HTML4. I have to ask Fay if there is a reason that we are forcing IE8 compatibility in Xenith because we'll never be able to make use of <canvas> in IE9.

Have attached a screenshot of how page 2 appears for me...

Regards,

John Smith | Learning Technologist
Room A251, Govan Mbeki Building | School of Health & Life Sciences | Glasgow Caledonian University Cowcaddens Road | Glasgow | G4 0BA

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[xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell [ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 26 November 2012 15:13
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Hi John
your updated file is in place now - seems to have fixed the Chrome issue but still not seeing page 2 in IE even after clearing cache etc.
Same links apply
View the flash version
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=150
View the html5 version
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play_html5.php?template_id=150 page 2 is empty HTH Ron

From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
[mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Smith, John
Sent: 26 November 2012 14:53
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Hi Ron,

Thanks for that, you managed to choose the worst text string possible!!
Usually you need to be very careful about using parseInt or Math.round to convert strings to numbers when you do calculations in JavaScript. This time though I was using .split(' ') on the passed in text string but JS was very unhelpfully just casting the text to a number and then it obviously couldn't find the .split method.

I've fixed it in SVN now and it seems to be working please try that if you get a moment and see if it's fixed.

Regards,

John Smith
Learning Technologist
School of Health & Life Sciences
Glasgow Caledonian University

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xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 10:45 AM
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Yes I do mean that window and as I said anecdotally I don't remember this ever happening prior to 1.8 and it's not consistent now, but on occasions the browse window has appeared below other windows.

BTW John - I hadn't updated the Techdis install with the html 5 model until now and there seems to be some odd stuff going on...
e.g. In IE9 via the html5 version I see page 1 & 3 but not page 2 View the flash version http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=150
View the html5 version
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play_html5.php?template_id=150 page 2 is empty

In Chrome it's the reverse I see page 2 but not 1 & 3 Same in Firefox and Safari

HTH
Ron

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xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 November 2012 10:21
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

You mean the native windows browse file dialog? It's not to the front? I've never even thought you could control it, I thought it was always to the fore (and modal?)

From:
xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
Sent: 26 November 2012 10:22
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

Hi John
I just tested this and shared the file with your account on the Techdis install.
I can't make it lose any lines etc and importing an image works fine too.
e.g.
http://vle.jisctechdis.ac.uk/xot/play.php?template_id=150
page 1 I created as a test file for you previously, page 2 I just created.
All seems to work fine.

Having said that except for a more general point not unique to this page type that I've noticed recently and this is anecdotal rather than 100% certain..

I'm fairly sure that previously (pre 1.8) when using a page type that allowed for browsing and uploading media the browse window always appeared on top of all other windows. Now the browse window often appears below the editor window and so can easily be missed. I'm not sure if this is a client issue e.g. when using IE I'm now using IE9 rather than IE8. I don't have time to test this theory with other browsers at the moment but is it possible that when you've been testing adding an image the browse window has been behind others?

HTH
Ron

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xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
Sent: 26 November 2012 09:56
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

AFAIK, the code in the DRAW class hasn't changed, nor has the code in the drawing editor? At least, I've not changed it.

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xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nott
ingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
Sent: 25 November 2012 19:57
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Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Problem with textDrawing (Flash) page in XOT

the drawing app uses some shared object jiggery pokery right?

On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Smith, John <J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk<mailto:J.J.Smith at gcu.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi,

Further to my last message about the image button not working, now there is a more serious problem with things disappearing. If you draw some lines and then go to 'Save Drawing' on the menu the last 1 (or few) of the lines that were drawn just disappear! Can anyone else replicate this? It's only been doing this recently so i'm assuming its due to one of the recent updates that one of you did and that someone will know where the problems lie?

Regards,

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