[Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats

Thu Nov 22 07:19:45 GMT 2012

I don't see the point in committing into 1.8...

And also the fact that you can't test some functionality probably also 
means you steered clear of those parts of the code.

And I do understand that you don;t like to merge the code in, it's not 
fun, but most of the time, it goes a lot smoother than last time.

Just try it:
1. Checkout a clean trunk
2. merge your code over it. Anything that will conflict is clearly 
indicated.

Tom

Op 21-11-2012 23:42, Pat Lockley schreef:
> I don't get the process here though and there is a lot of core I can't test - no ldap, no multiuser and sharing and so on. Could the sandbox switch to 1.9?
>
> Alternatively, I could commit into 1.8 as I suspect I've changed maybe 10 files (if that)
>
> On 21 Nov 2012, at 22:32, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> well, I think it will be for you to attempt to merge, and when you have code in files that have changed since you branched, it's going to be down to you to make sure your new code doesn't break anything that has changed since you branched. I don't think too much has - you can also get a log of each file so you can step through changes that have been mde to that file. I'm guessing that to ull this off, you'll have changed some core stuff, but I don't know how much. From our point ofview the only thing that has changed is the html5 stuff, and that is mostly client side. My own changes are client side, but might have fixed the odd PHP thing.
>>
>> Ron, Tom and David are the most likely to be able to comment on any PHP changes since 1.8 they have made.
>>
>> Probably worth trying at first into a dummy folder or something 'safe', just to see how things pan out?
>> ________________________________________
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk [xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley [patrick.lockley at googlemail.com]
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 17:47
>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>>
>> i've never merged before........
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> I don’t think so. LTI just lets you open a door into the application.
>>
>> I’d rather deal with this now, than later when it’s more complicated.
>>
>> Why not try merging, and see if it looks gribbly?
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 16:36
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>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
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>> Could do, and just leave out the new modules?
>>
>> The changes I discussed don't exist in 1.9 just yet - would later in week.
>>
>> I need to list what's changed for the purposes of testing, but am a bit worried that since the 1.9 branch was made a lot of new stuff has joined 1.8 (LTI for example) and I might undo some stuff? I can't see it clashing, but....
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> Why don’t you merge in your mod stuff, it won’t make a lot of odds to most people, but will allow some cool stuff later… most people won’t see any difference, right?
>>
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 15:53
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>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>>
>> i could, but is the php in 1.8 svn?
>>
>> It isn't a lot of php (an if statement or two)
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> Could you do the php side? In the wizard we can add a parameter to the LO playback=”flash” which can be updated to playback=”html” for people who want to experiment with the beta.
>>
>> Then in the wizard we can do
>>
>> If (set as flash or undefined) //do it flash style
>>
>> Else
>>
>> //do it html5 style
>>
>> Appreciate the flash side is probably easier than the PHP side…
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 14:45
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>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>>
>> -- Flash side --
>>
>> put a radio button in the editor
>> add an extra parameter to the url generation code (event handler for the play button)
>>
>> -- php side --
>>
>> Edit preview and play .php to check for this new $_GET and then branch
>>
>> -- .htaccess side --
>>
>> Mod the reg exp
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> Time is of the essence for the 1.9 drop because we want to get that done by 30th November, so I like what you’re saying, but wonder if it can be done in time…?
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 13:29
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>> To: For Xerte technical developers
>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Players and alternative formats
>>
>> Well it depends on what we call "now"
>>
>>
>> It's a bit roadmappy, but for 1.9 you'd not have html_play.php and play.php, but one play.php which would then switch on the variable set (within the module folder).
>>
>> You'd have an option somewhere of setting "HTML5" somehow (perhaps a radio box on the editor?) which would then send a request to set this session to be "HTML5" and all previews from then on would be HTML5 mode.
>>
>> Then you add an extension to the current play rule in htaccess to support a "third" variable, so play_560_html would play the template in HTML5 mode. In the future, play_560_scorm would do the scorm export. As long as play_560_[a-z]+ was handled in the php play code for that module you could do whatever you wanted to do.
>>
>> In theory you could also have preview_560_html as well
>>
>> It seems neater to me, but this is me speaking from my cave.
>>
>> Oooh a flint.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Julian Tenney <Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>> I like to generalise solutions too. What would the implications be for what we have now?
>>
>> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk>] On Behalf Of Pat Lockley
>> Sent: 21 November 2012 12:43
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>> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Players and alternative formats
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> This is a message from deep inside modularisation caves so it might not apply to all.
>>
>> I have a semi working google maps making template, and when it "plays" at present it draws a map using the google maps API.
>>
>> However, the play could also generate a KML file for people to download, or if the map couldn't load it could provide the data in a different way.
>>
>> So then I thought this is effectively the HTML5 option (and you might argue the xml download, export, scorm are also "plays").
>>
>> So I was thinking that rather than using ctrl + click, or extra buttons, you could facilitate an extra request variable consistently across modules.
>>
>> Ergo you post a "HTML5" option at the URL and you get HTML5 back, you post a "XML" and get xml, or "JSON" and get json.
>>
>> This way the URL Library doesn't need to change all the time, or the .htaccess, but you also get different plays for each module (and they are all distinct).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Pat
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