[Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)

Pat Lockley patrick.lockley at googlemail.com
Fri May 11 11:11:29 BST 2012


i mean for sysadmins

you've all got your own opinions on how you'd like it to look, so let
people set it their way.

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Julian Tenney
<Julian.Tenney at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Flippin Well Simple.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 11 May 2012 11:04
>
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> FWS ???
>
> Op 11-5-2012 11:56, Pat Lockley schreef:
>
> Suggestion (to save inboxes)
>
>
>
> Why not have in the languages folders a policy where if you have
>
>
>
> export.inc as the default
>
>
>
> if
>
>
>
> export_modified.inc exists
>
>
>
> then this is loaded instead of export
>
>
>
> so you can have your own interface?
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Ron Mitchell <ronm at mitchellmedia.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> For me the real value of the local export is this:
>
>
>
> User are authoring in the sandpit (or another XOT install) and want to link
> to Word or PowerPoint documents etc which aren't online so they import them
> via media and quota and link to them. Whilst learners are accessing from XOT
> all fine.
>
>
>
> Author the exports for use via vle and or locally via USB/CD. Author then
> needs choice whether those word/ppt links should be converted to local links
> or not. Sandpit users would have to choose convert to local because there
> assets would be wiped anyway. In other cases LO's may contain links to lot's
> of online resources and sites so connectivity is required even when viewing
> locally and keeping the media folder links pointing back to XOT can be very
> useful especially where assets are shared or updated regularly.
>
>
>
> The checkbox option gives the author control which is great.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:21
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> I would love to oblige, but what do you actually suggest? I mean point 2
> contains 2 different exports (Scorm 1.2 and Scorm 2004). Just make those two
> links in that line?
>
> And what do we do with 'local'
>
> All the code is there (need to debug scorm2004, that's probably a typo
> somewhere), the actual export done are parameters to export.php. So we only
> need to figure out how to do the UI right now.
>
> Tom
>
> Op 11-5-2012 11:15, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> OK, lets do that.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:15
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> Only listed that order because that's the order that's there now and
> effectively has been previously but yes probably makes more sense to swap 1
> and 3
>
>
>
> 1. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing
> into a vle without SCORM tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing
> into another XOT install
>
> 2. Export for SCORM deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004
> enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook
>
> 3. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and
> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 May 2012 10:01
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> I’d switch the order of 1 and 2 or maybe 1 and 3.
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:52
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
>> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.<
>
>
>
> I think there's more than you think and more than we know. They aren't
> developers, they're teachers in all sorts of organisations who might start
> off with the Techdis sandpit but then learn they can use the same easy to
> use interface in the developer tool and that becomes the way the create and
> edit whilst waiting for their own organisation's installation. There were
> quite a few people at the event on Wednesday who had been using Xerte not
> XOT but had started on the sandpit and exported. The full export has always
> been useful in this respect and a selling point. I can see things might need
> to change in the future but please keep this for now unless there's really
> good reason not to?
>
>
>
>> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self
>> contained deployment – or is this different?<
>
>
>
> In my experience most XOT users export as 'normal zip' rather than scorm and
> then import into their vle (usually moodle) and link to index.htm. I
> appreciate that they would be better just linking from XOT but for various
> reasons many still go the export route and obviously sandpit users do this
> because of the monthly wiping. Another reason is that display of scorm
> imports in Moodle in particular are often constrained by the frameset
> display and/or sitewide scorm module settings so people prefer the non-scorm
> route where score tracking isn't required. I guess this might change if more
> page types are tracked with Tom's developments but for now I think there's
> still a need for non-scorm deployment.
>
>
>
> So tweaking your list...
>
>
>
> 1. Archive export. Complete backup including offline editing and
> round-tripping back to toolkits or sharing with other Xerte users.
>
> 2. Export for deployment. Contains only the files required for importing
> into a vle without scorm tracking, sharing via CD or USB etc or importing
> into another XOT install
>
> 3. Export for Scorm deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004
> enables tracking of Quiz scores e.g. into Moodle gradebook
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:17
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> Maybe it’s useful to list the scenarios:
>
>
>
> Export for deployment: self contained, SCORM 1.2 or SCORM 2004
>
> Export for sharing with another XOT install (maybe the same output as self
> contained deployment – or is this different?)
>
> Export for offline editing and round-tripping back to toolkits – this is
> what you get when you click a source code link in xpert as well?
>
>
>
> That’s all of them?
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Julian Tenney
> Sent: 11 May 2012 09:12
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> This is starting to feel like a FWS failure.
>
>
>
> In options 1 and 2, the exported project loads media from the originating
> server? Is that what ‘full URL’ means, i.e.
>http://ltdev.nottingham.ac.uk/etc/’
>
>
>
> Supporting the roundtrip edit -> export -> edit in xerte for windows ->
> import -> continue editing might be something we want to drop in the future.
> I don’t know how this will work in an HTML5 world. Increasingly,
> connectivity is everywhere, and there’s less need to support this than there
> was. By far the most useful export is the one for deployment, with a minimal
> set of files, including only the media used / referenced in the project.
>
>
>
> AFAIK, very few people do the roundtrip thing to xerte on windows.
>
>
>
> It useful to have an export for sharing with other XOT users at different
> locations. When these projects are imported, the project folder gets all the
> models / thumbs etc – this doesn’t really need to happen, but I’m not sure
> why Pat made it work like this – maybe just easy coding, or maybe because we
> cope with templates the receiving install doesn’t know about, or templates
> that are out of synch with the receiving systems models / engine etc?).
>
>
>
> The SCORM zips are for deployment, so I think that’s straightforward.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:44
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> I guess I'm falling into the trap of 'how it used to be' e.g. whatever zip
> export I had I could extract and edit in Xerte.
>
>
>
> However I can understand the advantage of not exporting unused media in
> terms of file space saving etc but I'm not sure about the value of not
> including the files required to edit unless including them causes a problem?
>
>
>
> Effectively this means If I want to have an offline copy for safe keeping
> that I can edit as well as import into a vle and track I have to export
> twice - a full archive and a scorm export whereas previously the scorm
> export would enable both. Has this been discussed in this context e.g. is
> there a problem including the .xwd and any other files required to edit as
> part of all the exports?
>
>
>
> Personally no I don't think the links should always be converted to local
> links in fact quite the opposite. I've been showing people how to re-use
> assets by creating an lo just for that purpose e.g. if there's media and
> files used with lots of different LO's then upload to an asset only LO and
> then use those links in any number of LO's. This also means that linked
> documents can be updated once in one place so I think having choice of
> whether to keep the full url links or localise them is useful even if the
> asset is in the same lo.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 10 May 2012 21:19
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> The option 2, 3, 4 and 5 miss files you need to be able to edit them. The
> zip archives just contain the bare minimum.
>
> I wonder if the behaviour with the links of 3 should always happen.... and
> then get rid of option 3.
>
> Op 10-5-2012 22:03, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Have committed that small mod.
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell option 3 works like this...
>
>
>
> I upload a file via properties > media & quota and copy that full url link
>
> I then add that link to a text area of the same LO somewhere
>
>
>
> export options 1. and 2. include the file in the exported media folder but
> the link to the file added via media & quota remain full url links
>
>
>
> export option 3 changes the link to the file added via media and quota to
> FileLocation + 'media/filename' rather than full url.
>
>
>
> I also wondered what happens if the linked file was added to a different lo
> and in that case the export retains the full url so I guess the code must
> check for the LO ID or something and only convert the links to local links
> if the same lo.
>
>
>
> However I'm not sure whether it's just my install of Xerte but at the moment
> there seems to be a problem when trying to edit an LO exported with option 2
> and 3.  If I double click the .rlt xerte fires up but then automatically
> minimises and can't be restored e.g. can't edit the file. The same lo
> exported with option 1 edits just fine.
>
>
>
> In testing all this I also found another bug - when uploading via properties
>> media & quota the uploaded file doesn't appear even though it is uploaded.
>
>
>
> I'll add these issues to the Google doc.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:27
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> Please do. We still need to figure out what option 3 is doing.... :-)
>
> Op 10-5-2012 21:24, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Hi Tom
>
> on the test server I just replaced the export template with a copy that has
> <br></br> in the relevant places e.g.
>
>
>
>
>
> Does that seem ok? If so shall I commit that quick modification?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ron Mitchell
> Sent: 10 May 2012 20:09
> To: 'For Xerte technical developers'
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> That looks good to me but I'd be inclined to add a return between each link
> just so it's less easy to click the wrong link by mistake.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 10 May 2012 19:59
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> How about this for now?
>
>
>
> Op 10-5-2012 18:49, Tom Reijnders schreef:
>
> I think this looks good, and I am happy to explain 3, if I knew what it is
> doing.
>
> Op 10-5-2012 15:31, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Do we need to add some wording to  make this easy to understand: I might not
> know what ‘with references to local files altered’ means, so it might read:
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> There are several ways to export a project. An exported project is packaged,
> but not deleted, into a zip file for you to share with another user, to
> deploy on the web, or to import into a SCORM compliant LMS or VLE. You can
> choose whether to export all of the project’s files, or just those files
> used by the project. [Need some explanation around option 3 here].
>
>
>
> Export   Zip Archive with all media files from the project
>
>                 Zip Archive with just the media files used in the project
>
>                 Zip archive suitable for yadda yadda yadda
>
>
>
> If you want to export a SCORM package, you can choose to export SCORM 1.2 or
> SCORM 2004 packages. If you don’t know which version of SCORM you need, the
> SCORM 1.2 package will work in most LMS and VLE systems.
>
>
>
> Export   Scorm 1.2 Package
>
>                 Scorm 2004 Package.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Happy for any ideas / refinements? Also I can’t remember what the point of
> option 3 was..? I’ll see if I can find anything in my mail…
>
>
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
> Sent: 10 May 2012 09:42
> To: For Xerte technical developers
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
>
>
> Op 9-5-2012 12:33, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Yep.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 09 May 2012 11:30
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> Difference between zip and local? Ehmmm... That's what I asked you guys
>
> last week... :-)
>
>
>
> I'll make a quick page first, then we can at least test the
>
> functionality. UI shouldn't be that big of a problems afterwards. Agree?
>
>
>
> Op 9-5-2012 11:53, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> Sorry, whats the difference between local and zip?
>
>
>
> Otherwise, yes merge the two 1.2 exports.
>
>
>
> I like the idea of a drop down list to select which one.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 09 May 2012 10:52
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> No, didn't do anything since last time yet. Current state is that there
>
> are 5 exports:
>
>
>
> Zip : will only export used media and will export jMolViewer and/or
>
> mapstraction when used. Will not export the viewer because I need to
>
> look at that.
>
>
>
> Local zip: Same but with some changes to the urls
>
>
>
> SCORM 1.2
>
>
>
> SCORM 1.2 with extra meta data
>
>
>
> SCORM 2004
>
>
>
>
>
> As far as I can tell we can bundle the two SCORM exports. (Always use
>
> SCORM with extra MetaData)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Op 9-5-2012 11:36, Julian Tenney schreef:
>
> I don't want to see this splinter into a complicated page with loads of
> options. Ideally there might be some code that loops over each filename and
> sees if it exists anywhere in the xml and then exports it: that would cover
> hyperlinks too, and the user only has one option.
>
>
>
> Otherwise we start ending up with a  slightly baffling local? Scorm? Scorm
> 2004? Full? Minimal? Deployment? When people just want to get something out.
>
>
>
> Are these changes on the test server now?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 05 May 2012 19:23
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Re: Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> That's why I proposed a small(er) Deployment Export and a Full export,
>
> The Deployment export would be a new choice. That started the
>
> export/download discussion.
>
>
>
> Op 5-5-2012 20:13, Ron Mitchell schreef:
>
> Hi
>
> Only just catching up on discussions that I couldn't follow on Thurs&
>
> Friday...
>
>
>
> Personally I think export/download whatever it's called should include all
>
> the media in the media folder not just used media. The reason being
>
> sometimes files are uploaded via media and quota to simply link to via text
>
> hyperlink (and that hyperlink might even be in a linked document rather than
>
> a xerte page) or when trying different content as part of a particular page
>
> or project, so just because these show as not used doesn't mean they might
>
> not be required or used in future. I know that links like this might not
>
> work in the exported project but I think an author naturally assumes that
>
> export includes all their media and if it's a matter of reducing size they
>
> can delete unwanted media via media&    quota before exporting. e.g. owner
>
> should control what's exported and the reason for exporting might simply be
>
> as a backup of the whole project.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk
>
> [mailto:xerte-dev-bounces at lists.nottingham.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Tom Reijnders
>
> Sent: 03 May 2012 16:25
>
> To: For Xerte technical developers
>
> Subject: [Xerte-dev] Export Code (commit of fixes)
>
>
>
> I just committed an update to the export code:
>
>
>
> Fixes and additions for export
>
>      - Should copy all the language .xml files from the top of the /language
>
> folder
>
>      - Should enable scorm2004 compliant export
>
>      - Should copy JMolViewer and/or mapstraction folders if and only if
> those
>
> models are used
>
>      - Should ONLY export the used media, the rest is not copied
>
>      - small fixes in htaccess.conf
>
>      - small fixes in library/Xerte/Authentication/Db.php
>
>      - get rid of superfuous scorm files
>
>      - move MainPreloader.swf, rloObject.js and resources.swf out of scorm
> in
>
> in their own folder (modules/xerte/export)
>
>
>
>
>
> I wonder whether we should prevent exporting the thumbs folder as well...
>
>
>
> David (Goodwin), I used the Db method and had to fix two typos. Comitted
>
> thos as well. BTW, with the current code it is NOT that easy to set a
>
> password in the database... ;-)
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> Op 3-5-2012 14:25, Pat Lockley schreef:
>
> i couldn't see them failing, was just wondering if the scorm one might
>
> conflict.
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tom Reijnders<reijnders at tor.nl>     wrote:
>
> I will, but they are really simple.
>
>
>
> Op 3-5-2012 14:01, Pat Lockley schreef:
>
> Tom, could you check the rewrite rules work - worried the scorm ones
>
> might have hungry regexs?
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:57 PM, David Goodwin<david at palepurple.co.uk>
>
>      wrote:
>
> On 3 May 2012, at 12:48, Pat Lockley wrote:
>
>
>
> i like to leave the odd bug in to encourage other developers
>
> Nice.... thanks for making me laugh :)
>
>
>
> David.
>
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